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Article #472Copyright on books and software
From: Ian Staples
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:00
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:00
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In a thread concerning the availability or not of old versions of computer software gavp@gis.net wrote in article <397F646C.FB137CA2@gis.net> in alt.lang.basic: >I think copyright laws must be respected to a reasonable >boundary/time frame. QB and other alike software are out >of that time frame. I'm not saying that intellectual >property values should be disregarded but there's a limit >to everything. In case of QB it is totally preposterous. This is close to an attitude I've esposed for years in relation to books rather than software -- and I see a subtle distinction. (Perhaps it's my imagination. 8-) With books and similar documents, it has always seemed to me that copyright holders should have some reponsibility to make the material available while it's "out of print", in return for society's protection of the ownership rights. To some extent books and such are expressions of information and, as someone mentioned here recently, information should be "freely" available. (In my view that does not mean you shouldn't have to pay something for specific expressions of such "information"; but it does mean you should continue to have *convenient* access to it, whether in print or out.) Particularly in the technical and scientific fields, it is very frustrating when a particular "bible" goes out of print and there are no plans by the publisher to issue a new edition within a reasonable time frame, if at all! As an example, I have in mind a very good book on the botany and utility of tropical pasture plants in Longman's Tropical Agriculture Series: Bogdan, A.V. (1977) _Tropical Pasture and Fodder Plants (Grasses and Legumes)_ (Longman: London & NY.) Pp. xiii + 475. ISBN 0-582-46676-8. This book deals with a subject that others have also tackled; but unlike the others which tend to be simple rehashes of the same old detail from author to author, Bogdan's book covers much material not found elsewhere (in English at least) to my knowledge, and with a rather different emphasis. It deserves a place on the shelf of every tropical pasture scientist but, when I last enquired, it was well and truly out of print and there seemed to be no plan by Longman's to republish it. In such cases I think it should be acceptable for would-be users to legally copy the material in whole or part. I would have no objection to paying an appropriate royalty for the privilege if such payments could be made efficiently and conveniently. Turning to computer software I see a distinction. For a start, I'm told that it's only the source code which can be copyrighted (as a "literary work") -- but perhaps that varies across jurisdictions? -- whereas, in most cases, it's only the compiled code which is sold to end users and I assume that's protected by those licences you can't read *until* you've opened the box. ;-) In a sense, the program as you buy it is a "thing" rather than "information" -- you want it to do certain work for you. So, like any manufacturer of "things", software publishers are entitled to produce new models and withdraw old. It is then entirely their own decision as to whether the old model should remain in production or whether they would be better served by withdrawing it and moving the market to the new version. Also, in order to protect their income stream they will need to prevent illegal copying of both the old and the new versions. Of course, they have a particular problem here because it's so damn easy and cheap for virtually anyone who wants to, to copy the "thing" when it's software -- compare the economy of making your own car by copying a Holden rather than buying one from GMH for example, or even of making your own soup spoon. I have a proviso in all this though -- if a new version of software "breaks" older versions in the sense that you can no longer access documents created with the older versions, then I think the software publishers have an obligation to either continue sales and support of the old model or provide some *satisfactory* means to convert documents from the old to the new format. To their credit, I think they mostly do this with modern version changes. Cheers, Ian S. [Note Followups trimmed to the aus.* groups.] ianstDELETE@THISdpi.qld.gov.au
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10d683,9b206b09a714b66f,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10d683,public X-Google-Thread: f4acb,9b206b09a714b66f,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf4acb,public X-Google-Thread: 102c27,969e3d4636060702 X-Google-Attributes: gid102c27,public X-Google-Thread: 101ee4,9b206b09a714b66f,start X-Google-Attributes: gid101ee4,public X-Google-Thread: 10bcbe,9b206b09a714b66f,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10bcbe,public X-Google-Thread: 10ab99,4846ae02281ff792 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ab99,public From: ianst@refer.to.sig.au.invalid (Ian Staples) Subject: Copyright on books and software Date: 2000/07/29 Message-ID: <8lu289$vfq$2@bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au> X-Deja-AN: 652090443 References: <8l00cf$jh9$1@lacerta.tiscalinet.it> <snkb8871jjt50@corp.supernews.com> <8le2v5$aab$2@bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au> <snm33oepjjt24@corp.supernews.com> <397b5c25$0$11164$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au> <snmruim7jjt116@corp.supernews.com> <397B77A9.C8BD8761@da.ua> <Yihf5.25659$Yk.3072013@news1.mia> <snroplj03j115@corp.supernews.com> <Y2of5.217855$7o1.5620936@news2.rdc1.on.home.com> <397F646C.FB137CA2@gis.net> Followup-To: aus.legal,aus.books,aus.computers.ibm-pc X-Complaints-To: news@uq.edu.au X-Trace: bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au 964856905 32250 203.25.1.208 (29 Jul 2000 07:48:25 GMT) Organization: Speaking Personally NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Jul 2000 07:48:25 GMT Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic,aus.legal,aus.books,aus.computers.ibm-pc,sci.agriculture,sci.bio.botany