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From: Ian Staples
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 00:00

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In article <8o1630$5dt$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, 
cohalloran@my-deja.com wrote:
>In article <qel7qscjfprq4bcd0v1960krqr8kqn95g6@4ax.com>,
>  Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be> wrote:
>> cohalloran@my-deja.com wrote:
>>
>> >War requires government.
>>
>> I don't think so.
>>
>> Does football hooliganism runs under some government? No. Yet, it is
>> some kind of war.
>
>Riots are not wars.  That is why they call them riots instead of wars.
>
>War
>(1) : a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict
>between states or nations (2) : a period of such armed conflict
>
>Riot
>(1) : public violence, tumult, or disorder (2) : a violent public
>disorder; specifically : a tumultuous disturbance of the public peace by
>three or more persons assembled together and acting with a common intent

It seems to me you are making a distinction between something that
involves whole populations versus something that involves only
a small part of a single population.

Going back a bit, before "governments", would you call battles between
independent neighbouring tribes "wars" or "riots".  Going back a bit
further to the era of nomadic hunter/gatherer families, was a it a "war"
when two such family groups had a brawl over yams, or just a "fight"?

Cheers,  Ian S.

ianstDELETE@THISdpi.qld.gov.au

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Subject: Wars, riots, brawls? [Was: Microsoft takes legal action against pirates... (Was:... )]
Date: 2000/08/25
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