🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

3 total messages Started by Hazel Marie Davey Thu, 03 Sep 1992 12:00
VB for DOS
#191
Author: Hazel Marie Davey
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 12:00
55 lines
2691 bytes
Dear Basic Users,

Now that VB for Dos has been officially announced I would like to
ask a few questions about it. If anyone has the answers to any of
the questions below could they please
let me know either via the news group or via E-mail to

hlr@aber.ac.uk

(1) Does VB for Dos have full control over COM ports as QB does
    (I'm asking this because VB for Windows doesn't have any
     direct support for COM ports).

(2) Does VB for Dos allow direct access to memory? I need INP and OUT
    statements to set registers / read data from ADC/DAC/DIO(Digital In-Out) 
    cards. Can I suspend updating of forms / screen etc while I'm talking
    to my Data Acquisition card so that I don't lose any data? 

(3) With the discussions of compatibility in this news group coming to the
    conclusion that new Basic's from Microsoft should be compatible with
    current versions of C can we conclude that this will apply to 
    VB for Dos? In particular is it compatible with DOS applications written
    in QuickC for Windows? i.e can I write a front end in VB for Dos and LINK
    rather than SHELL to my number crunching C program?

(4) Does VB for DOS have a graphing add-on as part of either the standard or 
    professional version to allow me to display XY graphs etc on the screen
    and/or printer.

(5) Speaking of printers, as VB for Windows uses the Windows printer drivers
    what sort of printer support is offered by VB for DOS? i.e. can I print 
    graphics from VB for Dos or am I limited to PRINT for text and
    crude Print Screen for graphics?

(6) If I shell from a VB for Dos program to something else is execution of 
    the VB program suspended or does it continue in the background? Also,
    once the application that I shelled to is complete can I easily 
    discover whether or not it executed correctly?
 
I appreciate that some of these questions are a bit deep but VB for Windows
looked really good until I found that I had no direct COM support or low level
access to data acquisition cards.

The reviews that I have read about VB for Dos look really good but not
suprisingly they don't address my problems exactly (reviews never do).

Perhaps someone on this News Group has the answers, I hope so.

Looking forward to hearing from you,

Hazel Davey   (hlr@aber.ac.uk)
Dept. Biological Sciences,
Aberystwyth,
Wales
----- 
Re: VB for DOS
#193
Author: Dick O'Connor
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 14:39
23 lines
1424 bytes
hlr@aber.ac.uk (Hazel Marie Davey) writes:

>Dear Basic Users,

...<stuff trimmed>

>(3) With the discussions of compatibility in this news group coming to the
>    conclusion that new Basic's from Microsoft should be compatible with
>    current versions of C can we conclude that this will apply to 
>    VB for Dos? In particular is it compatible with DOS applications written
>    in QuickC for Windows? i.e can I write a front end in VB for Dos and LINK
>    rather than SHELL to my number crunching C program?

OR, (in my case), link to my serious Fortran number-crunching programs?  (C is
fine and all that, he said, nimbly ducking flames, but sometimes there's
nothing like Fortran for real computations!! :)  :)  etc.)  I'm using MS
Fortran 5.1, btw.


>----- 
-- 
"Moby" Dick O'Connor                         djo7613@u.washington.edu 
Washington Department of Fisheries           *I brake for salmonids* 
Re: VB for DOS
#100
Author: Fred Freeland
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 18:47
85 lines
4800 bytes
In article <1992Sep3.120034.11144@aber.ac.uk> hlr@aber.ac.uk (Hazel Marie Davey) writes:
>
>(1) Does VB for Dos have full control over COM ports as QB does
>    (I'm asking this because VB for Windows doesn't have any
>     direct support for COM ports).

Yes, Visual Basic for DOS has all the COM port support that QuickBASIC and
BC 7 has.

>
>(2) Does VB for Dos allow direct access to memory? I need INP and OUT
>    statements to set registers / read data from ADC/DAC/DIO(Digital In-Out) 
>    cards. Can I suspend updating of forms / screen etc while I'm talking
>    to my Data Acquisition card so that I don't lose any data? 

Yes, the INP and OUT statements are available to you.

>
>(3) With the discussions of compatibility in this news group coming to the
>    conclusion that new Basic's from Microsoft should be compatible with
>    current versions of C can we conclude that this will apply to 
>    VB for Dos? In particular is it compatible with DOS applications written
>    in QuickC for Windows? i.e can I write a front end in VB for Dos and LINK
>    rather than SHELL to my number crunching C program?

As always, you can write a number cruncher is the language of your choice and
link it in.  This is not necessarily an easy thing to do, but it's not hard
either IF you have the documentation on mixed-language programming that comes
only with the Professional Edition.

As far as being able to actually going into to another executable to execute
routines is concerned, I don't think that's possible in any context. Make the
other application into a library, and you're fine.

>
>(4) Does VB for DOS have a graphing add-on as part of either the standard or 
>    professional version to allow me to display XY graphs etc on the screen
>    and/or printer.

The Standard Edition does not have what used to be known as ChartLib, but
the Professional Edition does.

>
>(5) Speaking of printers, as VB for Windows uses the Windows printer drivers
>    what sort of printer support is offered by VB for DOS? i.e. can I print 
>    graphics from VB for Dos or am I limited to PRINT for text and
>    crude Print Screen for graphics?
>

I'm not very well versed on this. I do know you can print forms. Whether or
not you can print graphics is another matter.

>(6) If I shell from a VB for Dos program to something else is execution of 
>    the VB program suspended or does it continue in the background? Also,
>    once the application that I shelled to is complete can I easily 
>    discover whether or not it executed correctly?
> 

Because it's DOS you're working with, there's not going to be any background
processing going on. Your VB for DOS program will be suspended until the
shelled program has finished

>I appreciate that some of these questions are a bit deep but VB for Windows
>looked really good until I found that I had no direct COM support or low level
>access to data acquisition cards.
>

Understand that Visual Basic for DOS is a character-mode development system.
Because it's closely tied to DOS (rather than Windows) all of the things you'd
expect to be able to do can be done.  There has been no attempt to make it
look like Windows in the graphical sense. Of course, a great deal of effort
has gone into making VB/DOS and VB/Win as compatible as possible from the
code perspective. If you obey a few simple rules, code for one will work in 
the other.  Key to this is knowing what you can't do in Windows that you
can do in DOS. If you write code for functionality that is available on
both platforms, your code will be quite portable, including the look of
your forms.

I hope this information provides some of the answers you are seeking.


-- 
Frederick F. Freeland Jr.                        "Of all the things I've lost,  Microsoft Corporation                               I miss my mind the most!"   One Microsoft Way  
Redmond, WA 98052 (206) 882-8080                                                                                                                                internet: fredf@microsoft.com                                                   arpanet:  fredf%microsoft@uw-beaver.ARPA
uucp:     uunet!microsoft!fredf                                                                                                                                 Opinions expressed over this signature are my OWN and not those of my employer! 
Thread Navigation

This is a paginated view of messages in the thread with full content displayed inline.

Messages are displayed in chronological order, with the original post highlighted in green.

Use pagination controls to navigate through all messages in large threads.

Back to All Threads