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Re: Download Open Linux 2.3 - Caldera's License (getting long)

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From: DHobbs
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:00
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"Glenn T. Jayaputera" wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:23:42 +1000, Ranga <ranga@powerup.com.au> wrote:
> >Is there anywhere where I can download Open Linux 2.3 to burn on CD, or is
> >this asking too much?  I have 2.2, but it does not want to install with my
> >SiS 6326 AGP video card (it hangs with a grey screen at the start of the
> >LIZARD)  I'm only a newbie and believe this will be much easier than
> >downloading and installing patches etc.  (already tried to install Xfree86
> >3.3.5 with no success!).  I would fork out the bucks for it, but here in
> >Brisbane, Australia I can't find it anywhere (anyone know who stocks it -
> >plenty have 2.2 :( ).
> 
> I believe there are some who have download version of 2.3
> The problem is the license imposed by Caldera says that you
> cannot redistribute/reproduce/resell 4 components of the
> distributions (one of them is Lizard) without written
> permission from them.
> 
> Now, without Lizard, how the heck one would be able to
> install Open Linux?  Also according to the license then,
> you can download it but you cannot even lend it to your
> friend because it is classified as "redistributing".
> 
> In the official box, the license section of the manual
> it also says that you can only install Open Linux on a
> single computer.  Means, you have 10 computers then
> you have to buy 10 copies.
> 
> This is the only Linux distribution that I know that
> has this kinda style of licensing.  I also heard that
> Caldera throw a lawsuit against a company in The States
> because they selling the GPL version.

This is the license agreement for 2.2.  I see they did not post the
license agreement for 2.3 at all (yet)  I really hope they changed their
mind and became part of the open source GPL groups and are not trying to
become the MS of Linux.

I guess I'll have to stop suggesting Caldera.  One of the guys in the
office just asked which distro and I did suggest Caldera.  I'll have to
show him this and let him make up his mind.

http://www.calderasystems.com/doc/openlinux/eula.html#915138

(a) "Caldera Systems Software" consists of the following computer
programs: 

 1. Lizard Install System 
 2. Netware Linux Client 
 3. OpenLinux Windows Setup and Preparation Tools 
 4. Lisa Admistration System 
Caldera Systems (or its licensor, if applicable) owns the copyrights and
intellectual
property in and to each item of Caldera Systems Software. Caldera
Systems
Software is licensed by Caldera Systems to Licensee through the License
of Section
4 below. Licensee is not entitled to any Caldera Systems Software source
code
unless, and only to the extent that, such source code is included by
Caldera
Systems in the OpenLinux Product (in which case such source code is
included in
the Caldera Systems Software licensed by Caldera Systems under the
License of
Section 4 below. 

<snip>

4. License of Caldera Systems Software. 
Subject to the other provisions of this Agreement, Caldera Systems
grants to
Licensee a nonexclusive, nontransferable license to use the Caldera
Systems
Software on a single computer (the "License"). Use of the Caldera
Systems Software
on additional computers requires the purchase of additional licenses
from Caldera
Systems at Caldera Systems's then-current prices. Rights to Caldera
Systems
Software not expressly granted to Licensee in this Agreement are
reserved by
Caldera Systems. 

5. Copies of Caldera Systems Software. 
Licensee may make copies of Caldera Systems Software provided that any
such
copy: (a) is created as an essential step in the utilization of the
Caldera Systems
Software on a computer in accordance with the License and this
Agreement, or (b)
is only for archival purposes to back-up the licensed use of the Caldera
Systems
Software. Licensee may also make copies of the Caldera Systems Software
to the
extent reasonably needed to exercise rights under the License or this
Agreement.
All Caldera Systems trademark and copyright notices must be faithfully
reproduced and included on copies made by Licensee. Licensee may not
make any
other copies of the Caldera Systems Software. 
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I do not speak for anyone but myself.
Dan
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From: DHobbs <dhobbs@psrw.com>
Subject: Re: Download Open Linux 2.3 - Caldera's License (getting long)
Date: 1999/09/23
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