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3 total messages Started by beav AT wn DoT com DoT au Fri, 20 Feb 2004 03:35
Alternative to X on the way...
#199
Author: beav AT wn DoT com DoT au
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 03:35
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Slashdot reports that development on Y-windows has been resumed.

The Story:

Y Window System Project Started
     from the just-in-time-development dept.
     posted by michael on Thursday February 19, @12:05 (gui)
     http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/19/1628204

The artical includes a url to download the sourcecode, as well as Urls 
to the development site.

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Re: Alternative to X on the way...
#200
Author: thumb_42
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:43
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In alt.linux beav AT wn DoT com DoT au <"beav AT wn DoT com DoT au"> wrote:
> Slashdot reports that development on Y-windows has been resumed.
> 
> The Story:
> 
> Y Window System Project Started
>     from the just-in-time-development dept.
>     posted by michael on Thursday February 19, @12:05 (gui)
>     http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/19/1628204
> 
> The artical includes a url to download the sourcecode, as well as Urls 
> to the development site.

I've seen these types of projects before, they look like a great idea but
the installed base that X11 already has is too powerful to overcome, so
projects like this one seem to come and go. (would anyone actually target
'Y' when targeting 'Y' means X11 users can't use the software? what about
the people using X-Terminals? )

Don't misunderstand me, I do think a better X would be nice, something with
the toolkits residing on the server, something that makes everything look
cohesive, with decent font control, etc.. 

I don't plan on getting my hopes up just yet, though. Maybe if an expert
comes up with a way to embed gtk IN an X11 server, with a stub library or
something that wraps the gtk functions <-> this specialized X11 server so
that gtk applications "think" they're talking to a regular X11 server,
making it possible to run the same exact application in both 'X' and 'X-y' or
something.. 

I don't know, I'm not a gtk OR X11 programmer, I just see too many obstacles
in the area of "installed base" to overcome.

Jamie
Re: Alternative to X on the way...
#201
Author: Ralph
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 08:12
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thumb_42@yahoo.com wrote:

> In alt.linux beav AT wn DoT com DoT au <"beav AT wn DoT com DoT au">
> wrote:
>> Slashdot reports that development on Y-windows has been resumed.
>> 
>> The Story:
>> 
>> Y Window System Project Started
>>     from the just-in-time-development dept.
>>     posted by michael on Thursday February 19, @12:05 (gui)
>>     http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/19/1628204
>> 
>> The artical includes a url to download the sourcecode, as well as Urls
>> to the development site.
> 
> I've seen these types of projects before, they look like a great idea but
> the installed base that X11 already has is too powerful to overcome, so
> projects like this one seem to come and go. 

Funny, that's what everyone says about MS on the desktop. Guess we should
just give up on enabling desktop features on Linux, eh? 
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