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5 total messages Started by MGK Thu, 13 Jul 2000 00:00
partitioning probs
#517
Author: MGK
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 00:00
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Hi there,

 I'm having some problems intalling linux, well actually, it's actually a
partitioning problem, and I would really appreciate some help.

I've been running linux on and off for about 8 months now.  Unfortunately
had to take it off my HD a little while back due to some work that needed to
be done.

My problem is this, I was going to try OS/2 Warp (got a copy of it of the
front of an APC mag.), so I used fips to split my partion, around about
540mb...  After this I had some problem with intalling OS/2, which I'm not
going to worry about right onw, I'd rather get Linux going.  Now I have a
fair bit of free space left on my drive now (only 3gb to begin with),
unfortunately I have some files that defrag won't move, therefore no fips...

( I read somebodies post about changing attributes, however I'm not game,
because I actually have a stable setup of windows, and thats such a rare
thing that I don't want to endanger it!)

I also have a copy of Partition Magic, but it doesn't want to do the job....
(further explanation follows)

I'm running PM CE (Caldera Edition), I'm not sure whether this version is
slightly disabled, or it's just how PM is.  But all will let me do is change
the free space(the before mentioned 540, or so) which is not enough for
linux (well technically it is, but I want more...) or it will let me split
my current windows drive, which the split would be 800mb, which on it's own
is still not quite enough.  I would like to be able to join that 800 to the
540 (perfect!) but I can't work out how...

Any advice would be grea, thanks.


PS - On an unrelated matter, I'm trying to learn how to program, I started
with C, kinda   understand a few basics, but have retreated to python (i'm
told it's a good language to   start with) and I'm having a fine time with
it...  But one thing that I can't seem to find   (net or bookstores) is what
I would call "programme design",  as in, everything I have   seem to be,
"you know how to programme, this is how to do it in "insert language
here".  But not much on actually how to design algorithms beyond maths
(usefull, and   I'm sure I learn how to turn it into everything I need, but
for now I'm struggling).    Somebody mentioned reading the RFC's, I've had a
look, some of it makes sense,   some of it's a little above my head (for
now).  What I'm looking for is information on   how to put the language and
the information in RFC's into practice, I think this is   what I'm looking
for anyway.  Again, any help or advice would be muchly    appreciated.

Thanks.
Re: partitioning probs
#515
Author: Laurence Mckenna
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 00:00
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> PS - On an unrelated matter, I'm trying to learn how to program, I started
> with C, kinda   understand a few basics, but have retreated to python (i'm
> told it's a good language to   start with) and I'm having a fine time with
> it...  But one thing that I can't seem to find   (net or bookstores) is
what
> I would call "programme design",  as in, everything I have   seem to be,
> "you know how to programme, this is how to do it in "insert language
> here".  But not much on actually how to design algorithms beyond maths
> (usefull, and   I'm sure I learn how to turn it into everything I need,
but
> for now I'm struggling).    Somebody mentioned reading the RFC's, I've had
a
> look, some of it makes sense,   some of it's a little above my head (for
> now).  What I'm looking for is information on   how to put the language
and
> the information in RFC's into practice, I think this is   what I'm looking
> for anyway.  Again, any help or advice would be muchly    appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
This may help.
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2000/06/02/magazine/resources.html
Re: partitioning probs
#512
Author: Jason Stokes
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 00:00
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MGK wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
>  I'm having some problems intalling linux, well actually, it's actually a
> partitioning problem, and I would really appreciate some help.
> 
> I've been running linux on and off for about 8 months now.  Unfortunately
> had to take it off my HD a little while back due to some work that needed to
> be done.
> 
> My problem is this, I was going to try OS/2 Warp (got a copy of it of the
> front of an APC mag.), so I used fips to split my partion, around about
> 540mb...  After this I had some problem with intalling OS/2, which I'm not
> going to worry about right onw, I'd rather get Linux going.  Now I have a
> fair bit of free space left on my drive now (only 3gb to begin with),
> unfortunately I have some files that defrag won't move, therefore no fips...

From the FIPS docs:

"before starting FIPS you _must_ now defragment your Harddisk. All of
the
space that will be used for the new partition must be free. Be aware
that the
Windows Swapfile will not be moved by most defragmentation programs. You
must
uninstall it (in the 386enhanced part of the Windows Control Panel) and
rein-
stall it after using FIPS.
If you use IMAGE or MIRROR, the last sector of the hard disk contains a
hidden system file with a pointer to your mirror files. You _must_
delete this
file before using FIPS (it will be recreated the next time you run
mirror).
Do 'attrib -r -s -h image.idx' or 'attrib -r -s -h mirorsav.fil' in the
root
directory, then delete the file."

So if it's your Windows swap file, you can turn off virtual memory and
get rid of it.  Otherwise, you've got problems.  Have you tried
recruiting the empty space you created the first time round?
> I'm running PM CE (Caldera Edition), I'm not sure whether this version is
> slightly disabled, or it's just how PM is.  But all will let me do is change
> the free space(the before mentioned 540, or so) which is not enough for
> linux (well technically it is, but I want more...) or it will let me split
> my current windows drive, which the split would be 800mb, which on it's own
> is still not quite enough.  I would like to be able to join that 800 to the
> 540 (perfect!) but I can't work out how...

I'm not quite clear what you are describing.  If they are *contiguous*
partitions at the end of the disk, and neither of them are being used
for anything, you can delete both of them and then create a new
partition out of the free space.  If there are partitions in use after
those two partitions, you can't do that without losing data.
Re: partitioning probs
#513
Author: MGK
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 00:00
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thanks for the link =)

--
Michael

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"...but I'm awake now,
        so the day's already ruined...."
                          - Penelope Swales
Re: partitioning probs
#514
Author: MGK
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 00:00
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Yes, already tried all those (from FIPS doc's too), thanks for your reply
though.

--
Michael

king_monkey@bigpond.com.abcxwz
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"...but I'm awake now,
        so the day's already ruined...."
                          - Penelope Swales
"Jason Stokes" <jstok@bluedog.apana.org.au> wrote in message
news:3970B520.DE3CA649@bluedog.apana.org.au...
> MGK wrote:
> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> >  I'm having some problems intalling linux, well actually, it's actually
a
> > partitioning problem, and I would really appreciate some help.
> >
> > I've been running linux on and off for about 8 months now.
Unfortunately
> > had to take it off my HD a little while back due to some work that
needed to
> > be done.
> >
> > My problem is this, I was going to try OS/2 Warp (got a copy of it of
the
> > front of an APC mag.), so I used fips to split my partion, around about
> > 540mb...  After this I had some problem with intalling OS/2, which I'm
not
> > going to worry about right onw, I'd rather get Linux going.  Now I have
a
> > fair bit of free space left on my drive now (only 3gb to begin with),
> > unfortunately I have some files that defrag won't move, therefore no
fips...
>
> From the FIPS docs:
>
> "before starting FIPS you _must_ now defragment your Harddisk. All of
> the
> space that will be used for the new partition must be free. Be aware
> that the
> Windows Swapfile will not be moved by most defragmentation programs. You
> must
> uninstall it (in the 386enhanced part of the Windows Control Panel) and
> rein-
> stall it after using FIPS.
> If you use IMAGE or MIRROR, the last sector of the hard disk contains a
> hidden system file with a pointer to your mirror files. You _must_
> delete this
> file before using FIPS (it will be recreated the next time you run
> mirror).
> Do 'attrib -r -s -h image.idx' or 'attrib -r -s -h mirorsav.fil' in the
> root
> directory, then delete the file."
>
> So if it's your Windows swap file, you can turn off virtual memory and
> get rid of it.  Otherwise, you've got problems.  Have you tried
> recruiting the empty space you created the first time round?
> > I'm running PM CE (Caldera Edition), I'm not sure whether this version
is
> > slightly disabled, or it's just how PM is.  But all will let me do is
change
> > the free space(the before mentioned 540, or so) which is not enough for
> > linux (well technically it is, but I want more...) or it will let me
split
> > my current windows drive, which the split would be 800mb, which on it's
own
> > is still not quite enough.  I would like to be able to join that 800 to
the
> > 540 (perfect!) but I can't work out how...
>
> I'm not quite clear what you are describing.  If they are *contiguous*
> partitions at the end of the disk, and neither of them are being used
> for anything, you can delete both of them and then create a new
> partition out of the free space.  If there are partitions in use after
> those two partitions, you can't do that without losing data.
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