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Some time ago kdq@demott.com (Kevin D. Quitt) happily mumbled: 
>In article <1991Apr17.044951.7951@netcom.COM> mrs@netcom.COM (Morgan Schweers) writes:
>>
>>    Freemacs is an editor for people who enjoy their programming, not
>>people who just want to do their job and go home.
>
>    I greatly enjoy my programming.  Having tools that aren't broken makes
>it even easier to do so.

Greetings,
    I'm not interested in vague accusations against the program.  I happen to
know that it's not broken.  If you have a serious problem with it, send it to
me.  Either I'll fix it, or someone else will.  This sort of thing is doable
when one has the source code.
>
>>  I consider modifying
>>my editor for special features (which I bet I couldn't do under Epsilon
>>or Brief) to be part of my job.
>
>    I also consider tweaking my tools to be part of my job - but not
>fixing them.  And, by the way, you lose that bet.
    I strongly doubt I would lose that bet.  The things I do are on the
level of tweaking the source code.  Adding new primitives to the language,
giving it entirely new features, etc.  Do you have the source code to Epsilon
or Brief?  Could you get it?  Assuming Epsilon (or Brief) saves the original
screen, what would it take for you to display that screen WITHOUT spawning out
of the program?
    I don't want to get into a feature war, frankly, though I realize that I
might be starting one.  Let's not bother.  If you have a problem with the
program (other than the ones I mentioned in my other post) feel free to drop
me a line.

>
>>  It not only makes my life easier, but
>>it makes anyone who comes after me's life easier.  And after all, that's
>>what most of programming is.  Making tools to make making tools easier.
>>
>>    Oh, and as a final note, I'd *WRITE* my own blasted editor before
>>paying $200+ for someone else's.
>
>    $200 covers 4 hours of my time.  Can bring freemacs up to epsilon
>or brief in that amount of time?

     Sorry buddy, I program for the enjoyment of it.  If you're so retentive
to count every cent of time you spend doing something, perhaps you're in the
wrong field.  This is why I put up my global request for problems with
Freemacs.  I'm tired of hearing vague accusations by folks like you.  Give me
hard facts, and I'll work on them.  I'll work on them for free, too.  Because
I consider it *FUN* to do this sort of thing.

     Programming is my avocation as well as my vocation.  It's something I do
for pleasure.  Like many other programmers, I think, I like to produce things
that others like.  That's my goal.  Your goal is to make money.  We're seriously
coming at this from two different angles.
     Perhaps this conversations should die.  It's one of those psuedo-religious
issues.  When you get to the point where you can identify a major gap between
programmers like this one, it's best to stop the arguing.  Nothing more is
likely to get done.  Feel free to drop me a line suggesting improvements though.
Bug reports go to freemacs@sun.soe.clarkson.edu, and cc:'em to me if you'd
like.

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