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Started by Eric A. Raymond
Thu, 01 Jun 1989 20:47
Is OS/2 viable w/o Hard Disk?
Author: Eric A. Raymond
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 1989 20:47
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 1989 20:47
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Is it possible to run OS/2 from a floppy? I saw in a recent PC mag directions for creating a bootable diskette, but me thinks you still need a hard disk for all sorts of wonderful (?) support files. Any of you OS/2 owners have an answer? If so, are you forced to leave the disk in the unit (or swap the system disk back in/out) if you want to run a program from another disk? -- Eric A. Raymond (raymond@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov) G7 C7 G7 G#7 G7 G+13 C7 GM7 Am7 Bm7 Bd7 Am7 C7 Do13 G7 C7 G7 D+13: Elmore James
Re: Is OS/2 viable w/o Hard Disk?
Author: Jack Hudler
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 1989 15:27
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 1989 15:27
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In article <1170@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov> raymond@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov (Eric A. Raymond) writes: >Is it possible to run OS/2 from a floppy? I saw in a recent PC mag >directions for creating a bootable diskette, but me thinks you still >need a hard disk for all sorts of wonderful (?) support files. > >Any of you OS/2 owners have an answer? > >If so, are you forced to leave the disk in the unit (or swap the >system disk back in/out) if you want to run a program from another >disk? Yes you can. But! The only reason you would boot OS/2 from a floppy is to install something or run chkdsk. Other than those I can't think of any productive reason for doing so. You would not have any swap space, could not run PM, or DOS Box(I think), like I said, nothing productive. You might be able to run some programs, depends on memory, it would have to boot from 1.2 or 1.44 meg floppy, you couldn't load very many DLL's,forget about development. You could squeek by with a 20 meg, 40 meg is usable, >60 meg for productive development, I use 115 meg with 40 remaining. -- Classic Quotes from STNG: "Pen Pals" Picard: Her society is aware .. that there is intersteller life? Data: No Sir. Picard: Oooops..
Re: Is OS/2 viable w/o Hard Disk?
Author: Harish Pillay
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 1989 03:30
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 1989 03:30
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In article <1170@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov> raymond@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov (Eric A. Raymond) writes: >Is it possible to run OS/2 from a floppy? I saw in a recent PC mag >directions for creating a bootable diskette, but me thinks you still >need a hard disk for all sorts of wonderful (?) support files. > >Any of you OS/2 owners have an answer? > >If so, are you forced to leave the disk in the unit (or swap the >system disk back in/out) if you want to run a program from another >disk? > >-- I am user of OS/2 and NO you cannot yet run OS/2 off of a floppy. This is because, OS/2, unlike say MS-DOS, is implemented by Dynamic Link Libraries (DLLs). A DLL is loaded only when it is needed so that more memory is available to do multitasking and such. You might want to read Gordon Letwin's book - Inside OS/2 - published by Microsoft Press. Letwin is the Chief Architect of OS/2 in Microsoft. The main reason why floppies aren't viable at present is that the amount of space these DLLs occupy far exceed the current capacities of floppies. When we get say 5 MB on a 5.25 floppy, then we should see the possibility of running OS/2 off floppies. Then again, in a multi-tasking environment it is not advisable to run a machine WITHOUT a hard disk. You might still get to run OS/2 on a bernoulli box - provided you can get the necessary OS/2 device drivers for the bernoulli box. But if you are prepared to go to bernoulli box extent, you might as well get a harddisk! Hope that answers your questions. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harish Pillay Internet: harish@ece.orst.edu Electrical and Computer Engineering UUCP: uunet!ece.orst.edu!harish Corvallis, Oregon 97331 MaBell: 503-758-1389 (home) United States of America 503-754-2554 (office) ======== 'Give a man a fish, and he'll starve for life, ======== ======== Show him how to fish, and he'll feed himself for life.' ======== ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Is OS/2 viable w/o Hard Disk?
Author: Josh Krieger
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1989 14:49
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1989 14:49
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I am in the process of setting up a motor-control experiment which needs exact delays in the millisecond range. The TURBOC manual says that the delay() procedure may not always be accurate to the millisecond. If this is so, when is it not? Secondly, how is an accurate delay on the order of milliseconds generated if the timer clock only clicks about once every 57 milliseconds? -- Josh
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