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The Vermin must really be Squirmin'  to regurgitate this old
Gargantuan Lie posting  by Paul PZ Myers, a. pseudoscientist
if there ever was one.
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Professor Myers was a disgrace at Temple Univesity at the time
but curently is a disgrace at the University of Minnesota where
his students most assuredly earn degrees in Manchurian Candidacy.
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BLAST FROM THE PAST: A VISIT 
FROM ED CONRAD (CIRCA 1996) 
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<    By  Paul PZ Myers 
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(A Disgrace to Temple University and now 
a disgrace to the University of Minnesota) 
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(The late, great Wilton M. Krogman, author of "The Human Skeleton in
Forensic Medicine," identified this specimen as a tibia. It WAS a 
tibia until Paul Myers and Andrew MacRae got their hands on it and 
tampered with physical evidence.), 
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http://www.edconrad.com/pics/newtibia.jpg 
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Wrote Paul PZ Myers:
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I'm placing here a small piece of ancient history, from July of 1996. 
This is an account of my interactions with a particularly silly and 
peculiar anti-evolutionist, Ed Conrad. At that time, I was an 
assistant professor in the biology department at Temple University, 
in Philadelphia, PA. Ed Conrad was a strange fellow, a journalist in a
small town in Pennsylvania, who was stridently insisting on the 
talk.origins newsgroup that 1) evolution was false, 2) that modern 
humans had existed at the time that the Carboniferous coal deposits 
were forming, 3) that there had been a Velikovskian catastrophe, and 
4) that he had proof in the form of human fossils that he had been 
collecting from old coal mines in central Pennsylvania. He is not 
your typical reactionary christian creationist, but an odd breed
spawned by weird television pseudoscience, paranoid conspiracy
theories, von Daniken and Velikovsky, and a deep hatred of scientific
authorities. 
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Ed was being dealt with in an exemplary fashion by a geologist, 
Andrew MacRae, but since I worked in the same state as Ed, I offered
to let him use my microscope to do some comparative examination of the
fine structure of his 'fossils'. He spent a long afternoon puttering
about with my equipment, and I thought he was beginning to see the
light -- his specimens looked nothing like any of the biological or
fossil material I had on hand, and he was clearly frustrated that
reality was not reflecting his delusions at all well. As you'll see
below, though, he bounced back just fine after he left, coming up with
a whole collection of rationalizations after the fact. 
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RESPONSE FROM ED CONRAD -- Aug. 17, 2002 
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Paul Myers, sorry to drag you away from the corny jokes you've 
been posting about your fellow pseudoscientists who attended 
the 18th annual Porkfest -- "You pork me, then I'll pork you." -- 
held in New York City this past week. 
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We -- not the pseudos but John Q. Public -- would like to know what 
your precise role was in the preparation of the fraudulent ground 
section of EC96-001 that Andrew Macrae posted on his web page in late
summer 1996. 
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Did you advise Andrew Macrae how to do it, how to make a rock or 
concretion (minus Haversian canals) bear a similiarity in physical 
appearance to the real thing, the very same specimen that world 
acclaimed bone expert Wilton Krogman had identified as a portion 
of a tibia that was discovered between anthracite veins? 
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Did YOU, Paul Myers, actually prepare the fraudulent ground section 
and hand-deliver it to Andrew Macrae at the University of Calgary, a 
plane trip of more than 2,000 miles? 
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Did YOU, Paul Myers, advise Andrew Macrae to post those microscopic
photos of the fraudulent ground section, then advise him to send the
tampered slide to me (to complete the second part of your
conspiratorial escapade)? 
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Did YOU, Paul Myers, come up with the idea of politely contacting 
me just days after the hoax was perpetrated, inviting me to your 
laboratory at Temple Univesity to view that fraudulent ground section 
under your state-of-the-art microscopes. 
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Didn't YOU, Paul Myers, offer sympathy that it was established 
conclusively that fraudulent photos plastered on Andrew MacRae's 
web page proved the specimen WASN'T petrified bone but suggest an 
examination of the same ground section under your state-of-the-art 
microscopes, so I would have no question about Andrew Macrae's 
intregrity? 
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Isn't it true, Paul Myers, that you KNEW the ground section was not 
prepared from EC96-001 -- the portion of the petrified tibia found 
between anthracite veins -- when you invited me down to Philadelphia? 
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You knew, didn't you, Paul Myers, that no Haversian canals would ever
be seen in EC96-001 because you, Paul Myers, knew the ground section
was prepared from a rock or a concretion? You knew, didn't you, Paul
Myers, what we were examining under your microscopes at Temple was NOT
a ground section of EC96-001. 
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By the way, Paul Myers, just whom did you speak to at Calgary 
University during the many phone calls you admit having made during 
the peculiarly long period of time that Andrew Macrae had EC96-001 
 in his possession.  
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And whom did you meet with at Calgary University when you flew there
on other business? 
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This is a portion of your posting of Aug. 1, 2002 : 
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"However, at that time I was collaborating with several people at 
Calgary who had developed some calcium imaging software -- they were
helping me with some ratiometeric imaging problems. I even visited
Calgary one weekend, Unfortunately, it was a very busy working weekend
so that I didn't even have an opportunity to say hello to Andrew. 
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"It had nothing to do with your wacky rocks." 
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I'd say you've put your foot in your mouth again, Paul Myers. 
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You stated that you had "visited Calgary one weekend. Unfortunately, 
it was a very busy weekend so that I didn't even have the opportunity 
to say hello to Andrew." 
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I doubt how busy it must've been at Calgary University on a summer 
weekend, Paul Myers. I doubt if there are a handful of professors or 
instructors on campus at the majority of colleges and universities 
anywhere in North America on ANY summer weekend, let alone during a
weekend at any other time during the year. 
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But I'm certain there was at least one person on campus that summer 
weekend when you paid your visit, namely Andrew Macrae, and I'm sure
that you and he had spent many conspiratorial hours together. 
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Ed Conrad 
http://www.edconrad.com 
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