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Does this include dams for water supply reservoirs?

On Mon, 17 Mar 1997 00:49:21 +0000, "sdef!" <savage@easynet.co.uk>
wrote:

>The only good dam is one built by beavers. Dams are designed to
>imprison, control and restrict a river for the benefit of an elite group
>of humans who squander  the electricity and waste the water. 
>Dams are like blood clots and should all be destroyed. The 'flood
>control' measures the sometimes are designed for would not be needed if
>humans lived properly.
>
>Free the rivers, free the people
>
>Andy
>
>needham@syix.com.ns wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:44:53 -0800, David Underwood
>> <davidlkayp@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> >>
>> >Yes you heard that a levee failed due to some kind of environmental
>> >protection.  However, this tale was started by Rep. Richard Pombo, a
>> >true ecco-terrorist if ever there was one.  The Stocton Record reported
>> >on the levee failures, Pombo could not document such events due to "bugs
>> >and rodents in levees", the California Chief of the U.S.F.& W.S., Wqayne
>> >White said that there was little substance to these charges. Several
>> >experts on levees including people on the levee district director and
>> >farmers in the area said that the reason the levees failed was because
>> >there "was just too much water."
>> > -----------------------------------------------
>> >If there is junk science it is Needham, and Pombo, not the
>> >environmentalists.  The references are there to be read if you want to
>> >do the research.
>> > needham@syix.com wrote:
>> >> >
>> 
>> D. Understood....
>> 
>> WRONG... WRONG... WRONG....
>> 
>> You should quit promoting propaganda, but I know its hard for an
>> Eco-Nazis like yourself to go cold turkey. But there is HELP!
>> 
>> This story first broke on January 5, 1997 and was highlighted on the
>> front page in the special edition of the Appeal Democrat entitled
>> "GOING HOME."  There Steve Jones an attorney for RD784 made the
>> charge.  The article goes on to state that RD784 had been protesting
>> the 17 foot deep pond since 1995 but the Army Corp wouldn't listen.
>> 
>> Between the irresponsible environmentalist pushing their hair brain
>> ideas, the high powered Southern California water lobbyist, developers
>> too & the unscrupulous politicians who are always there to take the
>> hand-outs, the people of Sutter Yuba Counties are caught in the middle
>> to suffer the consequences of this batch of idiots.
>> 
>> Hey Understood the next time I want to keep up on current events in
>> Stockton, I'll look in a Marysville newspaper or maybe I should go to
>> the L.A. Times... Is that how it works with you guys?
>> 
>> Here's a little research for you by a Yuba/Sutter area news
>> organization.  If you are wondering whether this news outlet have a
>> bias interest at stake, I suppose you could say they do just as the
>> Appeal Democrat would. They are both located here in the area and
>> could have been flooded also. So far their bias interest goes (with
>> respect to the 1997 flood), it has been to inform the people in their
>> communities of the evils that men like yourself do to keep them in
>> harms way!
>> 
>> You may not like reading the following, but it will do ya some good.
>> So enjoy a piece of humble pie and read the following articles:
>> 
>> http://www.otn.net/btb/lead3.htm
>> 
>> http://www.otn.net/btb/lead1.htm
>> 
>> Then here's an editorial for all you Environmental Wackos.  It will
>> give you an idea how & what the people in these parts are thinking of
>> your Boondoggle environmental projects!
>> 
>> http://www.otn.net/btb/editorial/eldewho.htm
>> 
>> *********************************************************
>> 
>> On Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:31:47 +0000, "sdef!" <savage@easynet.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >>From what I've seen of these groups postings you're absolutely right.
>> >Why is it that this division is being encouraged? Could it be that it
>> >suits industry to have all environmental groups branded with the same
>> >regulationist interfering brush in order to stop the real message (ie:
>> >wake up! the world is dying) getting through?
>> >
>> 
>> I would hope it wouldn't have to be, but when human life is no longer
>> important there's a problem! Maybe hard to believe yet, I am very
>> supportive of RESPONSIBLE environmental measures. However, when groups
>> are supportive of climbing bridges (e.g. The Golden Gate), or chaining
>> themselves to trees etc., they sit on the Environmental Wacko side of
>> the bench. Right now I think it's stupid to say that dams are never
>> the solution. Even though the idiot dam(n) operators at Oroville
>> didn't start releasing the water as soon as they should have, if it
>> weren't for this dam both these counties would have been underwater.
>> The flows into Oroville on Jan. 1 were well over 300,000 cfp and
>> topped at about 350,000 cfp.  Releases were at peak flow of 160,000
>> cfp on Jan. 2 the day the levee breached.
>> 
>> Thank God Oroville was there!!
>> 
>> L. Needham
>> Sutter County, CA
>
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