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Re: Lessons Learned: California's Opportunity to Achieve Improved Flood Control

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From: needham
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:00
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On Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:44:53 -0800, David Underwood
<davidlkayp@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>
>Yes you heard that a levee failed due to some kind of environmental
>protection.  However, this tale was started by Rep. Richard Pombo, a
>true ecco-terrorist if ever there was one.  The Stocton Record reported
>on the levee failures, Pombo could not document such events due to "bugs
>and rodents in levees", the California Chief of the U.S.F.& W.S., Wqayne
>White said that there was little substance to these charges. Several
>experts on levees including people on the levee district director and
>farmers in the area said that the reason the levees failed was because
>there "was just too much water." 
> -----------------------------------------------
>If there is junk science it is Needham, and Pombo, not the
>environmentalists.  The references are there to be read if you want to
>do the research.
> needham@syix.com wrote:
>> >

D. Understood....

WRONG... WRONG... WRONG....

You should quit promoting propaganda, but I know its hard for an 
Eco-Nazis like yourself to go cold turkey. But there is HELP!

This story first broke on January 5, 1997 and was highlighted on the
front page in the special edition of the Appeal Democrat entitled
"GOING HOME."  There Steve Jones an attorney for RD784 made the
charge.  The article goes on to state that RD784 had been protesting
the 17 foot deep pond since 1995 but the Army Corp wouldn't listen.

Between the irresponsible environmentalist pushing their hair brain
ideas, the high powered Southern California water lobbyist, developers
too & the unscrupulous politicians who are always there to take the
hand-outs, the people of Sutter Yuba Counties are caught in the middle
to suffer the consequences of this batch of idiots.


Hey Understood the next time I want to keep up on current events in
Stockton, I'll look in a Marysville newspaper or maybe I should go to
the L.A. Times... Is that how it works with you guys?  

Here's a little research for you by a Yuba/Sutter area news
organization.  If you are wondering whether this news outlet have a
bias interest at stake, I suppose you could say they do just as the
Appeal Democrat would. They are both located here in the area and
could have been flooded also. So far their bias interest goes (with
respect to the 1997 flood), it has been to inform the people in their
communities of the evils that men like yourself do to keep them in
harms way!

You may not like reading the following, but it will do ya some good.
So enjoy a piece of humble pie and read the following articles:

http://www.otn.net/btb/lead3.htm

http://www.otn.net/btb/lead1.htm

Then here's an editorial for all you Environmental Wackos.  It will
give you an idea how & what the people in these parts are thinking of
your Boondoggle environmental projects!

http://www.otn.net/btb/editorial/eldewho.htm

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On Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:31:47 +0000, "sdef!" <savage@easynet.co.uk>
wrote:


>>From what I've seen of these groups postings you're absolutely right.
>Why is it that this division is being encouraged? Could it be that it
>suits industry to have all environmental groups branded with the same
>regulationist interfering brush in order to stop the real message (ie:
>wake up! the world is dying) getting through?
>

I would hope it wouldn't have to be, but when human life is no longer
important there's a problem! Maybe hard to believe yet, I am very
supportive of RESPONSIBLE environmental measures. However, when groups
are supportive of climbing bridges (e.g. The Golden Gate), or chaining
themselves to trees etc., they sit on the Environmental Wacko side of
the bench. Right now I think it's stupid to say that dams are never
the solution. Even though the idiot dam(n) operators at Oroville
didn't start releasing the water as soon as they should have, if it
weren't for this dam both these counties would have been underwater.
The flows into Oroville on Jan. 1 were well over 300,000 cfp and
topped at about 350,000 cfp.  Releases were at peak flow of 160,000
cfp on Jan. 2 the day the levee breached.  

Thank God Oroville was there!!

L. Needham
Sutter County, CA
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From: needham@syix.com.ns
Subject: Re: Lessons Learned: California's Opportunity to Achieve Improved Flood Control
Date: 1997/03/14
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