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Re: Lessons Learned: California's Opportunity to Achieve Improved Flood Control

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From: David Underwood
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:00
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Mark wrote:
> 
> David Underwood wrote:
> >
> > Mark wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear L. Needham Sutter County, California:
> > >
> > > Your below post is most interesting and shows your sharp
> > > perception.  I wish more shared your sharp perceptions.
> > >
> > > I have heard from a great distance that the Endangered
> > > Species Act (ESA) also contributed to the floods.  By
> > > preventing needed maintenance on damaged levees for the
> > > sake of the Long-Horned Elderberry Beetle.  In this case
> > > there is room for adjustment in the ESA and also for those
> > > who blindly act under its name displaying archaic environmentalism.
> > >
> > > Mark, from the land of the Mighty Columbia!!
> > >---------------------------------------------------
> > Yes you heard that a levee failed due to some kind of environmental
> > protection.  However, this tale was started by Rep. Richard Pombo,
> > a true ecco-terrorist if ever there was one.  The Stocton Record
> > reported on the levee failures, Pombo could not document such
> > events due to "bugs and rodents in levees", the California Chief
> > of the U.S.F.& W.S., Wqayne White said that there was little
> > substance to these charges. Several experts on levees including
> > people on the levee district director and farmers in the area said
> > that the reason the levees failed was because there "was just too
> > much water."
> >  -----------------------------------------------
> > If there is junk science it is Needham, and Pombo, not the
> > environmentalists.  The references are there to be read if you want to
> > do the research.
> >  needham@syix.com wrote:
> --------------------------------------------
> Dear David Underwood:
> 
> I question the credibility of your reference to the U.S.F.& W.S. - I
> believe that refers to the US Fish and Wildlife Service.  If that is the
> case the US Fish and Wildlife Service credibility is extremely suspect.
> The US Fish and Wildlife Service is well know to back their agendas with
> any deception that would serve their cause.  Why they do so is not
> explainable.  Perhaps they have problems facing the truth.
> 
> Mark, From the land of the Mighty Columbia!!
O.K. you do not trust the chief, i'll give you that, however Pombo, who
is noted for his attack on the Endangered Species Act could not provide
any one who would support his contention.  Pombos chief of staff, Steve
Ding and his press Secretary Mike Hardiman referrd reporters to several
farmers and flood control experts.  Those experts, including Dante
Nomoellini a wter attorney and Alex Hidebrand president of the San
Joaquin River Flood Control Association said that the levees were well
maintained and probably broke for other reasons.  thay also said that
environmental laws do not prevent levee work but that it does make it
mor expensive.

Unfortunately I do not have time to give the full text but no
responsible parties would blame environmental laws for the levee breaks.
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From: David Underwood <davidlkayp@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Lessons Learned: California's Opportunity to Achieve Improved Flood Control
Date: 1997/03/14
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