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David Underwood wrote:
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> Mark wrote:
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> > David Underwood wrote:
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> > > Mark wrote:
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> > > > Dear L. Needham Sutter County, California:
> > > >
> > > > Your below post is most interesting and shows your sharp
> > > > perception.  I wish more shared your sharp perceptions.
> > > >
> > > > I have heard from a great distance that the Endangered
> > > > Species Act (ESA) also contributed to the floods.  By
> > > > preventing needed maintenance on damaged levees for the
> > > > sake of the Long-Horned Elderberry Beetle.  In this case
> > > > there is room for adjustment in the ESA and also for those
> > > > who blindly act under its name displaying archaic environmentalism.
> > > >
> > > > Mark, from the land of the Mighty Columbia!!
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> > > Yes you heard that a levee failed due to some kind of environmental
> > > protection.  However, this tale was started by Rep. Richard Pombo,
> > > a true ecco-terrorist if ever there was one.  The Stocton Record
> > > reported on the levee failures, Pombo could not document such
> > > events due to "bugs and rodents in levees", the California Chief
> > > of the U.S.F.& W.S., Wqayne White said that there was little
> > > substance to these charges. Several experts on levees including
> > > people on the levee district director and farmers in the area said
> > > that the reason the levees failed was because there "was just too
> > > much water."
> > >  -----------------------------------------------
> > > If there is junk science it is Needham, and Pombo, not the
> > > environmentalists.  The references are there to be read if you want to
> > > do the research.
> > >  needham@syix.com wrote:
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> > Dear David Underwood:
> >
> > I question the credibility of your reference to the U.S.F.& W.S. - 
> > I believe that refers to the US Fish and Wildlife Service.  If 
> > that is the case the US Fish and Wildlife Service credibility is
> > extremely suspect.  The US Fish and Wildlife Service is well know 
> > to back their agendas with any deception that would serve their
> > cause.  Why they do so is not explainable.  Perhaps they have
> > problems facing the truth.
> >
> > Mark, From the land of the Mighty Columbia!!
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> O.K. you do not trust the chief, i'll give you that, however 
> Pombo, who is noted for his attack on the Endangered Species 
> Act could not provide any one who would support his contention.
> Pombos chief of staff, Steve Ding and his press Secretary Mike
> Hardiman referrd reporters to several farmers and flood control
> experts.  Those experts, including Dante Nomoellini a wter 
> attorney and Alex Hidebrand president of the San Joaquin River 
> Flood Control Association said that the levees were well 
> maintained and probably broke for other reasons.  thay also said 
> that environmental laws do not prevent levee work but that it 
> does make it mor expensive.
> 
> Unfortunately I do not have time to give the full text but no
> responsible parties would blame environmental laws for the 
> levee breaks.
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Dear David Underwood:
I appreciate your not taking the time to try to justify the US Fish and
Wildlife.  Because the lack credibility at one level casts the lack of
credibility shadow at all levels.  The USA is subsidizing the lack of
credibility in the US Fish and Wildlife which is pervasive throughout
the agency.  

I was referring to the Portland office, you bring up some other area!

Mark, from the land of the Mighty Columbia!!