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Bill Mulcahy wrote:
> 
> Joseph Zorzin wrote in message <35E7CDB5.5F196C8@forestmeister.com>...
> >Bill Mulcahy wrote:
> >>
> >> It should come to no surprise that bimbos aren't the only thing
> >> the piece of garbage in the White House was screwing. He,
> >> along with his pals in the Sierra Club, Audubum Society and other
> >> environmental sellouts have raped Mother Earth for profit.
> >
> >Hey Bill, lighten up. You have your issues, we have ours. You won't get
> >much support from the enviro groups in your airport problem if you
> >hastle the enviros.
> 
> Rereading my post I didn't mean to say the Cockburn article said that
> the Sierra Club and Audubum Society are sellouts. That piece of information
> I deduced from my own personal experience with the New York City
> chapters of both groups dealing with the aircraft noise pollution and
> airport expansion issues.
> 
> You will find the Sierra Club fighting to protect the Grand Canyon and
> Hawaii National Park from aircraft noise, but when it comes to PEOPLE
> in cities experiencing 24 hour-per-day noise pollution, they are silent!
> The New York City Sierra Club Chapter even has an airport employee
> on the executive board pushing airport policies!!!
> 
> The Audubum Society in New York City is just as bad. They take money
> from the airport to manage parks nearby. So they are not about to kill the
> golden goose by complaining about the airport's efforts to destroy a bird
> colony (the ONLY colony of Laughing Gulls in New York State) on a nearby
> nesting area in a wildlife preserve.
> 
> So I don't give a damn about getting these two phony
> environmental groups support on the aircraft noise issue. I just wonder
> how many other issues have they used their position to sell out the
> public and the environment for personal and organizational profit.
> 
> Bill Mulcahy
> 
> --
> Bill Mulcahy, member of Sane Aviation For Everyone
> http://pages.prodigy.net/rockaway/safe.htm and U.S. Citizens
> Aviation Watch http://www.nonoise.org/groups/us-caw/us-caw.htm
> Check out the alt.activism.noise-pollution newsgroup for more
> noise news stories and issues that are NEVER covered in the
> national media and major "environment" organizations
Well, hell. Bill...If you don't care about our support, why post here?..

> Rereading my post I didn't mean to say the Cockburn article
> said that the Sierra Club and Audubum Society are sellouts.
> That piece of information I deduced from my own personal
> experience with the New York City chapters of both groups
> dealing with the aircraft noise pollution and airport
> expansion issues.

=o= With both organizations, there are local chapters with
varying degrees of integrity.  And, it seems, the national
offices of both are rather volatile with their vision and
direction.

=o= I've come to a rule of thumb with the Sierra Club:  if
they oppose something on environmental grounds, they're usually
right.  If they chooose not to oppose something that other
groups are actively contesting, they've probably sold out.

=o= In California, at least, a Sierra Club endorsement is much
sought-after.  Grassroots groups may get zero media coverage,
particularly if the media hacks can just say, "the Sierra Club
supports it."  Sometimes they take a Sierra Club endorsement
and say, "environmentalists approve it."

> You will find the Sierra Club fighting to protect the Grand
> Canyon and Hawaii National Park from aircraft noise, but when
> it comes to PEOPLE in cities experiencing 24 hour-per-day
> noise pollution, they are silent!

=o= Alas, you can't even depend on these two groups to defend
the wilderness if there's some wheeling and dealing involved.
That's the sort of thing that led to the creation of Earth
First!.

=o= Groups that care about people are around; they're called
the environmental justice (EJ) movement.  My ISP has a great
resource devoted to this movement:

  http://www.igc.org/envjustice/

    <_Jym_>