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Article #147Re: SCOUTING TRADITIONS
From: Hans Georg Schaathun
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:00
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:00
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On Sat, 15 May 1999 01:05:02 -0600, Pat Conlin <redcoat@v-wave.com> wrote: : I don't see anything bizarre about traditional style scouting what-so-ever : as long as one realizes that just because something was done long ago : doesn't necessarily mean that it's outdated. That's true, but specifically the Victorian attitude is far from what the youth need to learn. For instance On my Honour I promise to do my best, To do my duty to God and the Queen, To help other people at all times. To obey the Scout Law. I can take the scout law, and I want to help other people, but the word �duty� does not have any morally adequate meaning. We want to help other people (including the queen, because she is one of God's creations, and definately not because she is queen), because it gives meaning to life. It has nothing to do with duties, because duties implies that other people can expect you to do it, eliminating freedom, bringing us back to totalitarian regimes. Scouting is to learn responsibility to make sensible decission on your own -- not to obey top-down decissions of others. -- :-- Hans Georg --- student of 'Life, the Universe and Everything' <georg@ii.uib.no> (stud.oecon. stud.scient.) http://www.ii.uib.no/~georg/ `My belief is my own, and any resemblance to any religion, real or imaginary, is purely coincidential.'
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 101851,b466d279b589dcc3 X-Google-Attributes: gid101851,public X-Google-Thread: 10c23e,b466d279b589dcc3 X-Google-Attributes: gid10c23e,public X-Google-Thread: 110958,b466d279b589dcc3 X-Google-Attributes: gid110958,public X-Google-Thread: fbe9a,b466d279b589dcc3 X-Google-Attributes: gidfbe9a,public X-Google-Thread: 110391,b466d279b589dcc3 X-Google-Attributes: gid110391,public X-Google-Thread: f924a,b466d279b589dcc3 X-Google-Attributes: gidf924a,public X-Google-Thread: 111320,b466d279b589dcc3 X-Google-Attributes: gid111320,public From: georg@ii.uib.no (Hans Georg Schaathun) Subject: Re: SCOUTING TRADITIONS Date: 1999/05/19 Message-ID: <slrn7k5o7a.qqr.georg@vipe.ii.uib.no> X-Deja-AN: 479669039 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <7hhp41$luo1@dagger.videotron.ab.ca> <0rGkNBAb5KP3EwYr@richhanco.demon.co.uk> <7hj6le$rkq1@dagger.videotron.ab.ca> Followup-To: rec.scouting.misc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.4/hacked (UNIX) Newsgroups: alt.org.scoutnet,alt.scouting,can.scout-guide,rec.scouting,rec.scouting.issues,rec.scouting.misc,uk.rec.scouting