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First, I'm sorry that it's taken this long for DS9 to get to Denmark.  On a
positive note, DS9 is arguably the best quality Star Trek you will find. 
I'm curious:  will you be getting the premier episode ("Emissary") or will
you start with what we've got playing currently in the US?

There is some quality acting on the show. Avery Brooks (Captain Sisko) is
truly first rate with a great supporting cast.  It seems that the success
of any Star Trek show depends greatly on the efforts of the Captain's
character.

Worf is also pivotal in the workings of DS9.  Watch for his involvement in
the current Klingon/Federation situation.

Anyway, DS9 is definitely worth watching.  I would love to hear your
thought on the show as you start enjoying it.


-- 
Michael Velasco
"The path of service leads from charity to justice."

Kim Larsen <webpoint@post3.tele.dk> wrote in article
<01bbfa5f$fe9f23e0$LocalHost@webpoint>...
> Hi everyone.
> 
> First, sorry if I have postet junkmail in a NG, but I have quit some
> trouble finding the right NG.
> 
> Second. Here in Denmark, Startrek Deep Space Nine, starts on national tv
> next monday. And I�m looking forward to it. But, and that is my question,
> is there anything to look forward to ?
> 
> Will anyone, take some time to give a reply on the quality of Deep Space
> Nine.
> 
> Please reply either to my e-mail adress or to NG alt.startrek
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Kim Larsen
> Webpoint@post3.tele.dk
> 
> 

On 4 Jan 1997 18:35:38 GMT, "Kim Larsen" <webpoint@post3.tele.dk>
wrote:

>Hi everyone.
>
>First, sorry if I have postet junkmail in a NG, but I have quit some
>trouble finding the right NG.
>
>Second. Here in Denmark, Startrek Deep Space Nine, starts on national tv
>next monday. And I�m looking forward to it. But, and that is my question,
>is there anything to look forward to ?
>
>Will anyone, take some time to give a reply on the quality of Deep Space
>Nine.
>
>Please reply either to my e-mail adress or to NG alt.startrek
>
>Kind regards
>
>Kim Larsen
>Webpoint@post3.tele.dk
>
This depends on your overall opinion of Star Trek in general.   When
ST:TNG first came out the scripts were, shall we say a little
purile...  I think this was in part due to Gene Rodenberrys input, as
some of them were a little stupid.   Deanna walked around looking half
hysterical all the time in a cheerleaders outfit, Captain Picard's
interest with Dick Dickson in the holodeck...please.  Well anyway,
after it became clear that it had a wider audience the script writing
improved a lot.  Compare the last episode with Encounter at Farpoint
and you will see what I mean.

The same is true with Deep Space Nine.  Although the first episodes
aren't that bad, there is not a lot to them.   As a star trek fan I
gave up watching them because they were boring, and only went back
many months later as I was tired of watching old episodes of ST on
video.   The quality improves a lot towards the later series.  Indeed
there are some episodes that are truly moving and will be of extreme
interest to serious star trek fans.

I think the overall problem with DS9 was that the previous series of
star trek had a crew travelling around the galaxy in a state of the
art ship encountering many different cultures and races.   DS9 is in
fact an old Cardassian station where everything is always breaking
down and the galaxy has to travel to ds9 so to speak, which is always
the same environment.   The script writers got round this later by
creating the Defiant..  a Federation war ship which could get back on
the topic of interstellar travel.

In short.. Don't expect too much, but stay with it.  It gets better in
the end.

On 4 Jan 1997 18:35:38 GMT, "Kim Larsen" <webpoint@post3.tele.dk>
wrote:

>Hi everyone.
>
>First, sorry if I have postet junkmail in a NG, but I have quit some
>trouble finding the right NG.
>
>Second. Here in Denmark, Startrek Deep Space Nine, starts on national tv
>next monday. And I�m looking forward to it. But, and that is my question,
>is there anything to look forward to ?
>
>Will anyone, take some time to give a reply on the quality of Deep Space
>Nine.
>
>Please reply either to my e-mail adress or to NG alt.startrek
>
>Kind regards
>
>Kim Larsen
>Webpoint@post3.tele.dk
>

The first episode of ST-DSN  (Emissary) is rather beautiful, and P.
Stewart is participating. But the first two seasons of the series (the
unique that until they to hour have haired in Italy) are not very
beautiful. You can feel the absence of the dimension of the trip. The
characters aren't harmonious. In general the plot are trite and a few
soft. But since the end of the second season the things change. And
from the fourth season the introduction of Worf makes the things
better. But. here you wants time.
Excuse for the my ugly English.
Asher/Darmok

"Kim Larsen" <webpoint@post3.tele.dk> wrote:

>Hi everyone.
>First, sorry if I have postet junkmail in a NG, but I have quit some
>trouble finding the right NG.
>Second. Here in Denmark, Startrek Deep Space Nine, starts on national tv
>next monday. And I�m looking forward to it. But, and that is my question,
>is there anything to look forward to ?
>Will anyone, take some time to give a reply on the quality of Deep Space
>Nine.
>Please reply either to my e-mail adress or to NG alt.startrek
>Kind regards
>Kim Larsen
>Webpoint@post3.tele.dk

Now that�s interesting! Someone who hasn�t seen DS9 yet!

It is worth watching, no doubt. DS9 is one of the finest TV-Shows you
can get, not only concernig SciFi. It would be highly interesting to
have some kind of review from you to alt.startrek, since we all have
become a bit dizzy and narrow-minded in the meantime, HAVEN�T WE???

CU!	Markus

E-Mails welcome...

P.S.: Didn�t you have a chance to get the german version of DS9 via
satellite (Sat 1) or don�t you understand german at all? And how is it
broadcast: in english or is it dubbed danish?

Asher (asher@imiucca.csi.unimi.it) wrote:
: On 4 Jan 1997 18:35:38 GMT, "Kim Larsen" <webpoint@post3.tele.dk>
: wrote:
: 
: >Hi everyone.
: >
: >First, sorry if I have postet junkmail in a NG, but I have quit some
: >trouble finding the right NG.
: >
: >Second. Here in Denmark, Startrek Deep Space Nine, starts on national tv
: >next monday. And I�m looking forward to it. But, and that is my question,
: >is there anything to look forward to ?
: >
: >Will anyone, take some time to give a reply on the quality of Deep Space
: >Nine.
: >
: >Please reply either to my e-mail adress or to NG alt.startrek
: >
: >Kind regards
: >
: >Kim Larsen
: >Webpoint@post3.tele.dk
: >
: 
: The first episode of ST-DSN  (Emissary) is rather beautiful, and P.
: Stewart is participating. But the first two seasons of the series (the
: unique that until they to hour have haired in Italy) are not very
: beautiful. You can feel the absence of the dimension of the trip. The
: characters aren't harmonious. In general the plot are trite and a few
: soft. But since the end of the second season the things change. And
: from the fourth season the introduction of Worf makes the things
: better. But. here you wants time.
: Excuse for the my ugly English.

Some of the best DS9 episodes are actually in season 1 and 2. There's Duet,
The Circle Trilogy and the Emissary that you mentioned. There some real
duffers there as well though.

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On 4 Jan 1997 18:35:38 GMT, "Kim Larsen" <webpoint@post3.tele.dk>
wrote:

>Hi everyone.
>
>First, sorry if I have postet junkmail in a NG, but I have quit some
>trouble finding the right NG.
>
>Second. Here in Denmark, Startrek Deep Space Nine, starts on national tv
>next monday. And I�m looking forward to it. But, and that is my question,
>is there anything to look forward to ?
>
>Will anyone, take some time to give a reply on the quality of Deep Space
>Nine.
>
>Please reply either to my e-mail adress or to NG alt.startrek
>
>Kind regards
>
>Kim Larsen
>Webpoint@post3.tele.dk
>
Hi, I started watching DSN about two years ago and although not as
good as TNG I feel it is a quality show.  If you have watched TNG it
will take some time (10 or so shows) to get use to a starbase vice a
ship.  By the way, it has promise for 97 according to the reviews I've
heard.

In article <01bbfa5f$fe9f23e0$LocalHost@webpoint>, "Kim Larsen"
<webpoint@post3.tele.dk> wrote:


>Will anyone, take some time to give a reply on the quality of Deep Space
>Nine.

This seems to be a matter of some debate, but here's my pennyworth. I've
come really to enjoy DS9. It is a darker, less clear-cut series than
previous Star Trek outings. It's not always clear who are trhe good guys
and who are the bad guys - in fact frequently those terms are not very
useful. I rather like that. It is also more of a team effort from the
"bridge crew" than is the case in the starship series. Try it - but be
prepared to let it grow on you rather than expecting to be overwhelmed
immediately.

-- 
Andy Morton
http://homepages.enterprise.net/thecroft

"These three things remain constant - Faith, Hope and Love; but the greatest of these is Love"

In article <01bbfa5f$fe9f23e0$LocalHost@webpoint>, "Kim Larsen"
<webpoint@post3.tele.dk> wrote:


>Will anyone, take some time to give a reply on the quality of Deep Space
>Nine.

This seems to be a matter of some debate, but here's my pennyworth. I've
come really to enjoy DS9. It is a darker, less clear-cut series than
previous Star Trek outings. It's not always clear who are the good guys
and who are the bad guys - in fact frequently those terms are not very
useful. I rather like that. It is also more of a team effort from the
"bridge crew" than is the case in the starship series. Try it - but be
prepared to let it grow on you rather than expecting to be overwhelmed
immediately.

-- 
Andy Morton
http://homepages.enterprise.net/thecroft

"These three things remain constant - Faith, Hope and Love; but the greatest of these is Love"

thecroft@enterprise.net (Andy Morton) wrote:

>>Will anyone, take some time to give a reply on the quality of Deep Space
>>Nine.

>This seems to be a matter of some debate, but here's my pennyworth. I've
>come really to enjoy DS9. It is a darker, less clear-cut series than
>previous Star Trek outings. It's not always clear who are the good guys
>and who are the bad guys - in fact frequently those terms are not very
>useful. I rather like that. It is also more of a team effort from the
>"bridge crew" than is the case in the starship series. Try it - but be
>prepared to let it grow on you rather than expecting to be overwhelmed
>immediately.

I agree. A few weeks back I posted that i'd never really taken to DS9,
but after writing that, I decided to watch the show (again). I must
say i'm now hooked, and look forward to Sky's DS9/Voyager 4-hour Trek
fest each weekend.

DS9 is a darker show, and has some good characters (although I
personally think Sisko is the weakest of all the captains... well,
apart from Kirk).

However, Voyager is the best new Trek around today (IMO).


--
Shea

http://www.cisfi28.demon.co.uk/

shea@trend-analysis.co.uk (Shea Bennett) writes:

> thecroft@enterprise.net (Andy Morton) wrote:
> 
> >>Will anyone, take some time to give a reply on the quality of Deep Space
> >>Nine.
> 

M�ske nogen ville v�re s� venlig at trimme followups s� dk.chat ikke
indg�r? 

I don't need to translate that or explain it further, do I?

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In article <853491813.10963.3@cisfi28.demon.co.uk>, Shea Bennett
<shea@trend-analysis.co.uk> writes
>thecroft@enterprise.net (Andy Morton) wrote:
>
>>>Will anyone, take some time to give a reply on the quality of Deep Space
>>>Nine.
>
>DS9 is a darker show, and has some good characters (although I
>personally think Sisko is the weakest of all the captains... well,
>apart from Kirk).
>
>However, Voyager is the best new Trek around today (IMO).
>
>
Shome mishtake surely, DS9 is resplendent with engaging characters.
Whereas Voy has only the Doc. I do wish, however, that Avery would be
less classical in his acting approach, it is possible to be
authoratative without being so bloody stagey.

--Neil K. 
"Believing oneself to be perfect
 is often the sign of a delusional mind"

In article <thecroft-1601972319120001@194.72.198.84>,
thecroft@enterprise.net (Andy Morton) wrote:

> In article <01bbfa5f$fe9f23e0$LocalHost@webpoint>, "Kim Larsen"
> <webpoint@post3.tele.dk> wrote:
> 
> 
> >Will anyone, take some time to give a reply on the quality of Deep Space
> >Nine.
> 
> 
I reckon that DS9 is the best of the trek series. It has the best mix of
cast and great potential for brilliant story lines. The quality is much
higher than that of TNG. Although good TNG is a bit too tacky in the first
few series, and sometimes there are some really crappy episodes (also a
feature of DS9), whereas DS9 is more consitantly good.

"Neil K." <Neil@nightofthe.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>>DS9 is a darker show, and has some good characters (although I
>>personally think Sisko is the weakest of all the captains... well,
>>apart from Kirk).
>>
>>However, Voyager is the best new Trek around today (IMO).
>>
>Shome mishtake surely, DS9 is resplendent with engaging characters.
>Whereas Voy has only the Doc. I do wish, however, that Avery would be
>less classical in his acting approach, it is possible to be
>authoratative without being so bloody stagey.

Each to his own; DS9 does have a larger selection of interesting
characters, I guess, but then it would -- it's set on a station; I
think the Voyager plots are more interesting/clever. And the Doctor is
worth several characters alone.

Did anyone catch the Voyager/DS9 on Sky this weekend (on Sunday)?
Those two episodes were almost identical.


--
Shea

http://www.cisfi28.demon.co.uk/

lottie@patrol.i-way.co.uk (Jonny Underwood) wrote:

>In article <thecroft-1601972319120001@194.72.198.84>,
>thecroft@enterprise.net (Andy Morton) wrote:
>
>> In article <01bbfa5f$fe9f23e0$LocalHost@webpoint>, "Kim Larsen"
>> <webpoint@post3.tele.dk> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> >Will anyone, take some time to give a reply on the quality of Deep Space
>> >Nine.
>> 
>> 
>I reckon that DS9 is the best of the trek series. It has the best mix of
>cast and great potential for brilliant story lines. The quality is much
>higher than that of TNG. Although good TNG is a bit too tacky in the first
>few series, and sometimes there are some really crappy episodes (also a
>feature of DS9), whereas DS9 is more consitantly good.

Unfortunately, I can't listen Brooks for more than a few minutes
before his  manner of speech starts to grate on me.
Is English his first language ?
Mulgrew's voice has the same effect. Like a fingernail on a
blackboard. AAArrrgh
Although TNG WAs tacky and twee at the beginning neither of the other
two can match it from for class or engaging characters from the second
series onwards. DS9 and Voyager are too damned PC for their own good
but thats the USA for you.