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In article <Dq9J3F.1DE@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>,
Carsten Whimster <carsten_whimster@iqpac.com> wrote:
[...]
>In fact, 
>the only enhancement that I am aware of in WebEx is the animation for 
>the browser icon, which doesn't impede other browsers at all. I intend 
>to use this fine logo, thank you Ignacio.

>Carsten Whimster -- carsten_whimster@iqpac.com
>-- EDM/2 Associate Editor and Book reviewer
>EDM/2   http://www.iqpac.com/edm2/index.shtml
>Reviews http://www.iqpac.com/edm2/columns/books.shtml
>Webpage http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~bcrwhims/index.html

They've also got the <caption> tag for tables, which probably won't
disturb other browsers.  See the What's new page of the WebEx home
page for more info.  (The WebEx home page is
http://www.raleigh.ibm.com/WebExplorer.  I can't get a URL for the
relevant section because I can't get through to the site right now...)

--
Randall Nortman
The University of Chicago
r-nortman@uchicago.edu
http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/rcnortma

In <4lf36o$fee@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, ignasi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ignacio Garcia) writes:
>Hi Guys!
>
>I made a "WebExplorer Enhanced Site" logo for all of us who maintain a web site.
>
>I placed it on hobbes (incoming directory).
>
>The name for the file is:   WebEx_Enhanced_Sites.GIF
>
>You can also see it on my home page. The address is in the signature.
>
>
>______________
>Ignacio Garcia   

I appreciate your fine efforts.  But, the logo, like its equivalent, flies in the face 
of open standards and the rapid development of international communication.

Warren
http://www.borg.com/~warren

In <4lfa07$3us@ns2.borg.com>, warren@borg.com writes:

>I appreciate your fine efforts.  But, the logo, like its equivalent, flies in the face 
>of open standards and the rapid development of international communication.
>
>Warren
>http://www.borg.com/~warren
>

Of course. I just made it because, first, I was bored this afternoon ;-), and second,
because I wanted to include a logo in my home page. Once finished, I thought
maybe somebody would like to have a logo like this. It's just for fun.

Cheers,

Ignacio

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ignasi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
"OS/2 is what DOS and Windows should have been. Windows NT
aspires to become what OS/2 is." - Lee Reiswig, May, 1993.
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In message <4lf36o$fee@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> - ignasi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
(Ignacio Garcia)22 Apr 1996 04:50:32 GMT writes:

:>
:>I made a "WebExplorer Enhanced Site" logo for all of us who maintain a web
site.
:>

I'm sure you went throught a lot of work to make the graphic but personally I
think
all this "enhanced for this browser, enchanced for that browser" is self
defeating.
If I had a Web site of any consequence I'd what it to support as many browsers
as
possible.

Just my opinion.

James

"If it isn't running OS/2, your PC ain't worth shit".
   Marty Cawthon, April 17, 1996

In <4lfa07$3us@ns2.borg.com>, warren@borg.com writes:
>In <4lf36o$fee@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, ignasi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ignacio Garcia) writes:
>>
>>I made a "WebExplorer Enhanced Site" logo for all of us who maintain a web site.
>>
>
>I appreciate your fine efforts.  But, the logo, like its equivalent, flies in the face 
>of open standards and the rapid development of international communication.

Hmm, only on the surface. IBM in their infinite wisdom (not used 
sarcastically for a change) have chosen to implement their enhancements 
in a way which does not interfere with other browsers. Netscape, which 
is, what, 80% of all browsers, have NOT chosen to do the same. In fact, 
the only enhancement that I am aware of in WebEx is the animation for 
the browser icon, which doesn't impede other browsers at all. I intend 
to use this fine logo, thank you Ignacio.

Carsten Whimster -- carsten_whimster@iqpac.com
-- EDM/2 Associate Editor and Book reviewer
EDM/2   http://www.iqpac.com/edm2/index.shtml
Reviews http://www.iqpac.com/edm2/columns/books.shtml
Webpage http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~bcrwhims/index.html

In message <317beb1b.194983@news2.new-york.net> - christij@unix.asb.com
(Joseph Christie)Mon, 22 Apr 1996 20:26:37 GMT writes:


:>What we need is an "Enhanced_for_Lynx logo" of course people using
Lynx won't
:>see it - and 90% of Netscape users wouldn't get it. 

ROTFLMAO !!!!  This I'll use !!!! 

/*Rob Saker <resaker@teleport.com> on OS/2 Warp*/
/*Is Win95 really ........  Bob for Workgroups?*/

In <317beb1b.194983@news2.new-york.net>, christij@unix.asb.com (Joseph Christie) writes:
>What we need is an "Enhanced_for_Lynx logo" of course people using Lynx won't
>see it - and 90% of Netscape users wouldn't get it. 
>

Ahhh... not so!! If you made an ascii enhanced for lynx logo that relied on
type being monospaced then it would only look correct on Lynx... This is
a good idea :)

D.A.Braun
_______________________
David A. Braun    -     dabraun@ibm.net
Meridian Software
(315) 824-5053

In <4lfa07$3us@ns2.borg.com>, warren@borg.com writes:
>In <4lf36o$fee@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, ignasi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ignacio Garcia) writes:
>>Hi Guys!
>>
>>I made a "WebExplorer Enhanced Site" logo for all of us 
>>who maintain a web site.

>I appreciate your fine efforts.  But, the logo, like its equivalent, flies in the face 
>of open standards and the rapid development of international communication.

If that's the case, name me one web browser that can't read any "WebExplorer"
specific BODY tag _that causes it to loose information_ ... there aren't any, 
because there are no WebEX specific tags except the <annimate> tag.  Do you send
letters to webmasters that display the "you must use Netscape 1.1N or later..."
statement to clean up their HTML?  I do!  Look at all the sites that have the
Netscape 2.0 retrieval button.  Talk about commericalism!

-bob-

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In <4lktfi$hcf@news.rl.af.mil>, falbof@rl.af.mil        (F. Robert Falbo) writes:
>In <4lfa07$3us@ns2.borg.com>, warren@borg.com writes:
>>In <4lf36o$fee@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, ignasi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ignacio Garcia) writes:
>>>Hi Guys!
>>>
>>>I made a "WebExplorer Enhanced Site" logo for all of us 
>>>who maintain a web site.
>
>>I appreciate your fine efforts.  But, the logo, like its equivalent, flies in the face 
>>of open standards and the rapid development of international communication.
>
>If that's the case, name me one web browser that can't read any "WebExplorer"
>specific BODY tag _that causes it to loose information_ ... there aren't any, 
>because there are no WebEX specific tags except the <annimate> tag.  Do you send
>letters to webmasters that display the "you must use Netscape 1.1N or later..."
>statement to clean up their HTML?  I do!  Look at all the sites that have the
>Netscape 2.0 retrieval button.  Talk about commericalism!
>
>-bob-
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>F. Robert Falbo 

I think we are in 100% agreement.  It's the problem with "I can do it and you can't" 
while claiming to be conforming to an open standard.  If a product claims xxxx 
"enhanced", they are merely thumbing their nose at the standards committee and 
at the user audience as well.

Warren
http://www.borg.com/~warren

p.s. Howdy neighbor.

ignasi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ignacio Garcia) wrote:

>Hi Guys!

>I made a "WebExplorer Enhanced Site" logo for all of us who maintain a web site.

>I placed it on hobbes (incoming directory).

>The name for the file is:   WebEx_Enhanced_Sites.GIF

>You can also see it on my home page. The address is in the signature.


Hi.

What Enhancements does Web Explorer offer (ie. frames, ?) that arn't
part of the regular html spec?


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In <DqFJEA.D1p@eskimo.com>, jcrowe@mail.eskimo.com (Jonathan Crowe) writes:
>
>Hi.
>
>What Enhancements does Web Explorer offer (ie. frames, ?) that arn't
>part of the regular html spec?
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>-bye for now-
As far as I know, the only enhancement WebEx has that others don't is the 
animation.  It's not much, but it sure is a pleasure to surf Warped sites and 
see my animation change.  The other _enhanced_ sites are mostly (imho) a 
real pain in the butt.

Jim Lang
Team-OS/2
#include.standard_disclaimer.h

warren@borg.com wrote:

>I think we are in 100% agreement.  It's the problem with "I can do it and you can't" 
>while claiming to be conforming to an open standard.  If a product claims xxxx 
>"enhanced", they are merely thumbing their nose at the standards committee and 
>at the user audience as well.

I write HTML code, and I consider it my goal and responsibility to
adapt to the users and never ask them to adapt to me (unless there is
a very good reason to ask them to).  And when I do have to write
non-compatible code, I will still make a seperate version of the web
compatible with lynx which offers as much of the non-compatible
version's information and features as possible.

With one of my HTML documents, I also have a seperate plain text
version for those without Web access or simply prefer ftp.


Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) [Team OS/2] A net.freedom-fighter for Mobius!
"Freedom Fighters are #1!" -- Sonic the Hedgehog
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In <4lktfi$hcf@news.rl.af.mil>, falbof@rl.af.mil        (F. Robert Falbo) writes:
>[...] there are no WebEX specific tags except the <annimate> tag. [...]


Well, actually there are two or three. For example, see my OS/2 page
at   http://rrnet.com/~ah/os2.html  . You'll need to view it with WebExplorer,
and no other browser, in order to get the full effect.

(Hint, all of these "tags" are internal WebEx tags used in the WebMap).

heh heh heh.

Andrew Hagen
ah@rrnet.com

On 28 Apr 1996 00:07:24 GMT, Andrew Hagen, symbolic analyst <ah@rrnet.com> wrote:

>Well, actually there are two or three. For example, see my OS/2 page
>at   http://rrnet.com/~ah/os2.html  . You'll need to view it with WebExplorer,
>and no other browser, in order to get the full effect.
>
>(Hint, all of these "tags" are internal WebEx tags used in the WebMap).

    Not to mention the way that WebEx "raises" the buttons which are links
instead of just highlights them with a stupid blue border.  My page
(http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus) shows this to great effect.

-- 
---- = ----
   Steve C. Lamb...
      "Yeah, I remember her saying...  "I'm already dead...
         "I'm already dead...  "I'm already dead...  "I'm already dead...

Steve Lamb (morpheus@dreaming.calweb.com) wrote:
: 
: >Well, actually there are two or three. For example, see my OS/2 page
: >at   http://rrnet.com/~ah/os2.html  . You'll need to view it with WebExplorer,
: >and no other browser, in order to get the full effect.
: >
: >(Hint, all of these "tags" are internal WebEx tags used in the WebMap).
: 
:     Not to mention the way that WebEx "raises" the buttons which are links
: instead of just highlights them with a stupid blue border.  My page
: (http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus) shows this to great effect.

I discovered that Netscape ignores <u></u> (underline) tags...
And WE interprets them!

However, I don't like idea of creating pages supposed to be viewed with
particular browser. This is against those who view pages !!
*My* homepage (http://crydee.sai.msu.su) carries crossed Netscape sign
and comment "Not enhanced for Net$cape".

Sergey Ayukov