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Ignacio Garcia (ignasi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu) wrote:
> Is it, in fact, faster than Pentium-based sustems?
 The NexGen boards are supposed to be a little faster than the
 equivalent Pentium but the difference is not that much.
> 
> Is it totally compatible?
I have a NexGen 90 VL-bus board and it's *very* solid with OS/2.

> 
> And this the big question: Is it worth it?
Definitely!
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	You will find that some software will not run on the Next Gen 586
because it is a glorified 386. That may possibly be of interest to you since
OS/2 Merlin according to IBM will not function on any 386 CPU. I am not
positive but I think NT will not run on it either. 
	Like you I will have to check that out this week.


On 11 Mar 1996 09:06:37 GMT, ignasi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ignacio Garcia)
wrote:

>@Hi there!
>@
>@I'm planning to upgrade my system (486/66). My decission was almost made. I was
>@thinking about purchasing a Pentium90 motherboard, but I've seen lots of ads
>@about the new Nx586 motherboards. They claim they work on almost any system,
>@and the ads include the "avalaible and ready for OS/2" logo. Anyway, I was
>@wondering if somebody is or has been using it and likes to tell us how it works.
>@
>@Is it, in fact, faster than Pentium-based sustems?
>@
>@Is it totally compatible?
>@
>@And this the big question: Is it worth it?
>@
>@TIA,
>@
>@Ignacio
>@
>@______________
>@Ignacio Garcia    -Team OS/2-
>@ignasi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
>@http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
>@"OS/2 is what DOS and Windows should have been. Windows NT
>@aspires to become what OS/2 is." - Lee Reiswig, May, 1993.
>@______________
>@

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In <31442b45.49952118@nntp.crl.com>, vhealey@crl.com (Victor Healey) writes:
>	You will find that some software will not run on the Next Gen 586
>because it is a glorified 386. That may possibly be of interest to you since
>OS/2 Merlin according to IBM will not function on any 386 CPU. I am not
>positive but I think NT will not run on it either. 
>	Like you I will have to check that out this week.
>
>
>On 11 Mar 1996 09:06:37 GMT, ignasi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ignacio Garcia)
>wrote:
>
>>@Hi there!
>>@
>>@I'm planning to upgrade my system (486/66). My decission was almost made. I was
>>@thinking about purchasing a Pentium90 motherboard, but I've seen lots of ads
>>@about the new Nx586 motherboards. They claim they work on almost any system,
>>@and the ads include the "avalaible and ready for OS/2" logo. Anyway, I was
>>@wondering if somebody is or has been using it and likes to tell us how it works.
>>@
>>@Is it, in fact, faster than Pentium-based sustems?
>>@
>>@Is it totally compatible?
>>@
>>@And this the big question: Is it worth it?
>>@
>>@TIA,
>>@
>>@Ignacio
>>@
>>@______________
>>@Ignacio Garcia    -Team OS/2-
>>@ignasi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
>>@http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
>>@"OS/2 is what DOS and Windows should have been. Windows NT
>>@aspires to become what OS/2 is." - Lee Reiswig, May, 1993.
>>@______________
>>@
>
>Victor Healey and Associates                            
>mailto:vhealey@crl.com
>
I believe that some older DOS programs may incorrectly indentify the NexGen CPU
as a 386, but I just assembled a NexGen PCI system and I am *very* impressed with 
it.  I'm using a BusLogic Flashpoint SCSI adapter and Fujitsu HD, but the MB has a
very nice EIDE controller on board if you are going that route.  OS/2 installed  itself
perfectly and it makes my old 486-66 look like a dog!

In <4i0qet$715@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, ignasi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ignacio Garcia) writes:
>Hi there!
>
>Is it, in fact, faster than Pentium-based sustems?
>
>Is it totally compatible?
>
>And this the big question: Is it worth it?
>
>TIA,
>
>Ignacio
>
>______________
>Ignacio Garcia    -Team OS/2-
>ignasi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
>http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
>"OS/2 is what DOS and Windows should have been. Windows NT
>aspires to become what OS/2 is." - Lee Reiswig, May, 1993.
>______________
>
I upgraded my system to the NexGen 586-90 PCI and have been really impressed.  I have had
absolutely no lockups or complaints from any software.  As far as price, I purchased mine for
$279.00 several months ago when Pentium 90's where in the $600 range.  No doubt a great
bargain...

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In <31442b45.49952118@nntp.crl.com>, vhealey@crl.com (Victor Healey) writes:
>	You will find that some software will not run on the Next Gen 586
>because it is a glorified 386. That may possibly be of interest to you since
>OS/2 Merlin according to IBM will not function on any 386 CPU. I am not

IBM has in no way, shape, or form said that Merlin "will not function on any
386 CPU."  If they have, then please point me to the news release.

>positive but I think NT will not run on it either.

NT will probably run on it, but not as well as with a Pentium processor.
NT 4.0, like OS/2 Merlin, will most likely be optimized for the Pentium
processor.  This does *not* mean that it will not run on any other
processor.  In fact, the decrease in performance on an Nx586 over a 
similar speed Pentium will probably not be noticed.

However, with all the new brands of processors shipping, the standard
disclaimer applies:  "Your milage may vary."

-------------------------
Thomas B. Stanley
User Support Programmer
Oklahoma Climatological Survey
"Just my 32 bits...."
-------------------------

Wayne Stidolph (stidolph@alphoid.romoidoy.com) wrote:
> In article <4i0qet$715@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>,
> Also, I'm getting various traps I never got before - if I just leave it 
> sit for a day or two, it'll TRAP 000e out; sometimes a TRAP d, yesterday 
> a TRAP 6. This didn't use to happen; is it my new memory? The board? I 
> don't know yet.... sigh. 
> 
I have an almost identical system, NexGen 90 with VL-bus and 32Mb
memory, I run a similar sort of mix of applications.  Mine has *never*
trapped since I had it so I think your traps are not to do with the
NexGen.  I leave my system on 24 hours a day by the way.  Oh, it's an
Alaris motherboard.

-- 
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In message <4i25mm$cuo@stealth.romoidoy.com> - stidolph@alphoid.romoidoy.com (W
ayne Stidolph) writes:
:>
:>In article <4i0qet$715@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>,
:>Ignacio Garcia <ignasi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> wrote:
:>  [snip - asking for report on Nx586 motherboards]
:>
:>I have an Nx586 VLB board, a P90. This means an 84MHz clock, performing 
:>like a Pentium90, roughly.  The VLB bus runs at 43 MHz, outside VESA 
:>spec. Mine doesn't have the FPU. I have 32MB RAM. Motion 531 VLB video, 
:>BusLogic BT-445 VLB SCSI, Gravis UltraSound PnP audio, no-name 
:>ser/par/game card.
:>
:>>Is it, in fact, faster than Pentium-based sustems?
:>
:>Almost an impossible-to-answer question! My system is a *lot* quicker 
:>than a 16MB 486-DX2/66 with accelerated video (Orchid Kelvin64) I use at 
:>work...
:>
:>I have a Pentium90 with 32MB RAM, PCI-based, with SCSI and a Diamond 
:>Stealth running on the PCI bus. It runs Windows NT 3.51. The two machines 
:>execute Word 6.0a at about the same speed for scrolling, repaginating and 
:>such.
:>
:>> >Is it totally compatible?
:>So far, no problems traced to motherboard issues. I run Warp COnnect 
:>fullpack FP17, VAC++, Mathematica for OS/2, Object Desktop, 4OS2, all the 
:>stuff from DevCon, several Windows apps (Word, Excel), and so on. Typical 
:>programmer/engineer mix, I think. I have some intermittant TRAP activity, 
:>but I havn't started to narrow it down.
:>
:>> >And this the big question: Is it worth it?
:>For me, fundamentally, no.  I wish I had the FPU (for OpenGL, for MathLive 
:>under Windows). VLB was a mistake (trying to migrate boards I should have 
:>cut loose). The nagging question each time some problem occurs, "is it 
:>the weird CPU?" is annoying - though I haven't yet *seen* a problem that 
:>I actually decided was the board. 
:>
:>It was a dollar savings, but I set up my requirements wrong...
:>
:>Also, I'm getting various traps I never got before - if I just leave it 
:>sit for a day or two, it'll TRAP 000e out; sometimes a TRAP d, yesterday 
:>a TRAP 6. This didn't use to happen; is it my new memory? The board? I 
:>don't know yet.... sigh. 
:>
:>  Wayne
:>
:>
:>
Well I have the NxGen vlb90 w/o fpu and just 16 meg. I run OS2 blue and I 
leave mine on all the time and don't trap at all.  Also FP17 installed. I 
think it was well worth it but I don't have major use for the FPU. If I did, 
I'd opt for the new NxGen's with the FPU.  If money is an object, I would 
definitly go with the NxGen. As far as as fast as a Pentium 90, don't know 
but sure as hell beats my old 386DX40 :)

To each his own:

Gary

In <4i0qet$715@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, ignasi@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ignacio Garcia) writes:
>Hi there!
>
>I'm planning to upgrade my system (486/66). My decission was almost made. I was
>thinking about purchasing a Pentium90 motherboard, but I've seen lots of ads
>about the new Nx586 motherboards. They claim they work on almost any system,
>and the ads include the "avalaible and ready for OS/2" logo. Anyway, I was
>wondering if somebody is or has been using it and likes to tell us how it works.
>
>Is it, in fact, faster than Pentium-based sustems?
>
>Is it totally compatible?
>
>And this the big question: Is it worth it?
>
>TIA,
>
>Ignacio

Greetings,
	Check out Team-OS/2's homepage at http://www.teamos2.org/
for, IMHO, the best indicator of how well the Nx586 works with OS/2.  Myself, 
I'm running the old Pentium until the PPC w/ Workplace Shell comes out.

Luck,

Jim Lang
Team-OS/2