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20 total messages Started by David. E. Goble Sat, 14 Jun 2003 04:18
? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1139
Author: David. E. Goble
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 04:18
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Hi all;

He is what I have (dont laugh)...

msi k7t turbo2 v5 ms6330 mother board
Duron 1g cpu
1.1g SDRAM
80g seagate 7200 rpm HDD
17 inch lg studioworks 700s moniter
Auriga geforce4 mx 440 64Mb DDR tv out agp 4x video card
Internal Swannsmart 2 56k v.90 voice/fax/data modem
Windows Xp Pro sp1 etc...

From the windows task manager the cpu usge is around 10-20%, when I
dial in to the internet I on average connect at 46kbps, currently at
49kbps. While watching the network Utilisation the network does not go
higher than 60%

When the connection pauses, the whole system pauses, from screen
refresh to my typing...

Can anyone explain thanks.
Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1140
Author: derek / nul
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 07:05
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 13:48:45 +0930, David. E. Goble <degoble@gtech.computing>
wrote:

>Hi all;
>
>He is what I have (dont laugh)...
>
>msi k7t turbo2 v5 ms6330 mother board
>Duron 1g cpu
>1.1g SDRAM
>80g seagate 7200 rpm HDD
>17 inch lg studioworks 700s moniter
>Auriga geforce4 mx 440 64Mb DDR tv out agp 4x video card
>Internal Swannsmart 2 56k v.90 voice/fax/data modem
>Windows Xp Pro sp1 etc...
>
>From the windows task manager the cpu usge is around 10-20%, when I
>dial in to the internet I on average connect at 46kbps, currently at
>49kbps. While watching the network Utilisation the network does not go
>higher than 60%
>
>When the connection pauses, the whole system pauses, from screen
>refresh to my typing...

Have you tried an external modem, you may have a software modem.
Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1141
Author: Rod Speed
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 19:24
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"derek / nul" <abuse@sgrail.org> wrote in message news:m8ilevcrp56gdaccrhr595oogqrvh52bch@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 13:48:45 +0930, David. E. Goble <degoble@gtech.computing>
> wrote:
>
> >Hi all;
> >
> >He is what I have (dont laugh)...
> >
> >msi k7t turbo2 v5 ms6330 mother board
> >Duron 1g cpu
> >1.1g SDRAM
> >80g seagate 7200 rpm HDD
> >17 inch lg studioworks 700s moniter
> >Auriga geforce4 mx 440 64Mb DDR tv out agp 4x video card
> >Internal Swannsmart 2 56k v.90 voice/fax/data modem
> >Windows Xp Pro sp1 etc...
> >
> >From the windows task manager the cpu usge is around 10-20%, when I
> >dial in to the internet I on average connect at 46kbps, currently at
> >49kbps. While watching the network Utilisation the network does not go
> >higher than 60%
> >
> >When the connection pauses, the whole system pauses, from screen
> >refresh to my typing...
>
> Have you tried an external modem, you may have a software modem.

You dont get an effect like that with those.
Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1142
Author: Dr Felina Rosh
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 21:01
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"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bcfsoq$ik55k$1@ID-69072.news.dfncis.de...
|
| "derek / nul" <abuse@sgrail.org> wrote in message
news:m8ilevcrp56gdaccrhr595oogqrvh52bch@4ax.com...
| > On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 13:48:45 +0930, David. E. Goble
<degoble@gtech.computing>
| > wrote:
| >
| > >Hi all;
| > >
| > >He is what I have (dont laugh)...
| > >
| > >msi k7t turbo2 v5 ms6330 mother board
| > >Duron 1g cpu
| > >1.1g SDRAM
| > >80g seagate 7200 rpm HDD
| > >17 inch lg studioworks 700s moniter
| > >Auriga geforce4 mx 440 64Mb DDR tv out agp 4x video card
| > >Internal Swannsmart 2 56k v.90 voice/fax/data modem
| > >Windows Xp Pro sp1 etc...
| > >
| > >From the windows task manager the cpu usge is around 10-20%, when I
| > >dial in to the internet I on average connect at 46kbps, currently at
| > >49kbps. While watching the network Utilisation the network does not go
| > >higher than 60%
| > >
| > >When the connection pauses, the whole system pauses, from screen
| > >refresh to my typing...
| >
| > Have you tried an external modem, you may have a software modem.
|
| You dont get an effect like that with those.
|
You do on certain setups; for instance with a pc chips pc100 mobo, which is
heavily pci dependant, running a HSP K56 internal software micromodem;(From
experience.) and quite possibly others
Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1143
Author: Kadaitcha Man
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 23:26
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Rod Speed wrote:

> You dont get an effect like that with those.

Shut the fuck up, rod slug, you slimy, thread slinking chicken.

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Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1144
Author: Rod Speed
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 00:44
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"Dr Felina Rosh" <URAPnut@msn.com> wrote in message news:bcg2ev$krk$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
>
> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:bcfsoq$ik55k$1@ID-69072.news.dfncis.de...
> |
> | "derek / nul" <abuse@sgrail.org> wrote in message
> news:m8ilevcrp56gdaccrhr595oogqrvh52bch@4ax.com...
> | > On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 13:48:45 +0930, David. E. Goble
> <degoble@gtech.computing>
> | > wrote:
> | >
> | > >Hi all;
> | > >
> | > >He is what I have (dont laugh)...
> | > >
> | > >msi k7t turbo2 v5 ms6330 mother board
> | > >Duron 1g cpu
> | > >1.1g SDRAM
> | > >80g seagate 7200 rpm HDD
> | > >17 inch lg studioworks 700s moniter
> | > >Auriga geforce4 mx 440 64Mb DDR tv out agp 4x video card
> | > >Internal Swannsmart 2 56k v.90 voice/fax/data modem
> | > >Windows Xp Pro sp1 etc...
> | > >
> | > >From the windows task manager the cpu usge is around 10-20%, when I
> | > >dial in to the internet I on average connect at 46kbps, currently at
> | > >49kbps. While watching the network Utilisation the network does not go
> | > >higher than 60%
> | > >
> | > >When the connection pauses, the whole system pauses, from screen
> | > >refresh to my typing...
> | >
> | > Have you tried an external modem, you may have a software modem.
> |
> | You dont get an effect like that with those.

> You do on certain setups;

Not with his setup.

> for instance with a pc chips pc100 mobo,
> which is heavily pci dependant,

Whatever that last is sposed to mean...

> running a HSP K56 internal software micromodem; (From experience.)

Nothing like the config being discussed.

> and quite possibly others

You dont get effects like that with an internal
modem with the config being discussed.
Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1145
Author: Kadaitcha Man
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 00:47
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Rod Speed wrote:

> Nothing like the config being discussed.

> You dont get effects like that with an internal
> modem with the config being discussed.


That's not what is being discussed now. I have changed the topic. We are now
discussing your fat mouth and your inability to put your money it, along
with your propensity to slink off and ignore threads when you get
bitch-slapped.

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Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1146
Author: Dr Halonfire
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 00:49
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"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bcgfhu$jdmg8$1@ID-69072.news.dfncis.de...
|
| "Dr Felina Rosh" <URAPnut@msn.com> wrote in message
news:bcg2ev$krk$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
| >
| > "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| > news:bcfsoq$ik55k$1@ID-69072.news.dfncis.de...
| > |
| > | "derek / nul" <abuse@sgrail.org> wrote in message
| > news:m8ilevcrp56gdaccrhr595oogqrvh52bch@4ax.com...
| > | > On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 13:48:45 +0930, David. E. Goble
| > <degoble@gtech.computing>
| > | > wrote:
| > | >
| > | > >Hi all;
| > | > >
| > | > >He is what I have (dont laugh)...
| > | > >
| > | > >msi k7t turbo2 v5 ms6330 mother board
| > | > >Duron 1g cpu
| > | > >1.1g SDRAM
| > | > >80g seagate 7200 rpm HDD
| > | > >17 inch lg studioworks 700s moniter
| > | > >Auriga geforce4 mx 440 64Mb DDR tv out agp 4x video card
| > | > >Internal Swannsmart 2 56k v.90 voice/fax/data modem
| > | > >Windows Xp Pro sp1 etc...
| > | > >
| > | > >From the windows task manager the cpu usge is around 10-20%, when I
| > | > >dial in to the internet I on average connect at 46kbps, currently
at
| > | > >49kbps. While watching the network Utilisation the network does not
go
| > | > >higher than 60%
| > | > >
| > | > >When the connection pauses, the whole system pauses, from screen
| > | > >refresh to my typing...
| > | >
| > | > Have you tried an external modem, you may have a software modem.
| > |
| > | You dont get an effect like that with those.
|
| > You do on certain setups;
|
| Not with his setup.
|
| > for instance with a pc chips pc100 mobo,
| > which is heavily pci dependant,
|
| Whatever that last is sposed to mean...
|
| > running a HSP K56 internal software micromodem; (From experience.)
|
| Nothing like the config being discussed.
|
| > and quite possibly others
|
| You dont get effects like that with an internal
| modem with the config being discussed.
|
|
I got better things to do than argue with a brainless fuckwit who knows
everything
Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1147
Author: Kadaitcha Man
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 00:50
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Dr Halonfire wrote:

> I got better things to do than argue with a brainless fuckwit who
> knows everything


Only half right.

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Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1148
Author: Kadaitcha Man
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 01:03
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Dr Halonfire wrote:
> "Kadaitcha Man" <fooq@haha.com> wrote in message
> news:646f4f5dba85cd21d335155b847b8198@TeraNews...
>> Dr Halonfire wrote:
>>
>>> I got better things to do than argue with a brainless fuckwit who
>>> knows everything
>>
>>
>> Only half right.
>>
> OK delete last 3 words of my rhetoric.


Rod slug is just the usenet equivalent of the mouth of the south. He's all
puff and bluster, no substance. A bit like a big girl's blouse blowing
around on the washing line.

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Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1149
Author: Dr Halonfire
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 01:10
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"Kadaitcha Man" <fooq@haha.com> wrote in message
news:cb75827339db6352ac6cee25a9c5dc83@TeraNews...
| Dr Halonfire wrote:
| > "Kadaitcha Man" <fooq@haha.com> wrote in message
| > news:646f4f5dba85cd21d335155b847b8198@TeraNews...
| >> Dr Halonfire wrote:
| >>
| >>> I got better things to do than argue with a brainless fuckwit who
| >>> knows everything
| >>
| >>
| >> Only half right.
| >>
| > OK delete last 3 words of my rhetoric.
|
|
| Rod slug is just the usenet equivalent of the mouth of the south. He's all
| puff and bluster, no substance. A bit like a big girl's blouse blowing
| around on the washing line.
|
I get the drift; they say empty vessels make the most noise.
Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1150
Author: Rod Speed
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 04:23
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"Dr Halonfire" <URAPnut@msn.com> wrote in message news:bcgfq3$bh1$1@titan.btinternet.com...
>
> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:bcgfhu$jdmg8$1@ID-69072.news.dfncis.de...
> |
> | "Dr Felina Rosh" <URAPnut@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:bcg2ev$krk$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
> | >
> | > "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> | > news:bcfsoq$ik55k$1@ID-69072.news.dfncis.de...
> | > |
> | > | "derek / nul" <abuse@sgrail.org> wrote in message
> | > news:m8ilevcrp56gdaccrhr595oogqrvh52bch@4ax.com...
> | > | > On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 13:48:45 +0930, David. E. Goble
> | > <degoble@gtech.computing>
> | > | > wrote:
> | > | >
> | > | > >Hi all;
> | > | > >
> | > | > >He is what I have (dont laugh)...
> | > | > >
> | > | > >msi k7t turbo2 v5 ms6330 mother board
> | > | > >Duron 1g cpu
> | > | > >1.1g SDRAM
> | > | > >80g seagate 7200 rpm HDD
> | > | > >17 inch lg studioworks 700s moniter
> | > | > >Auriga geforce4 mx 440 64Mb DDR tv out agp 4x video card
> | > | > >Internal Swannsmart 2 56k v.90 voice/fax/data modem
> | > | > >Windows Xp Pro sp1 etc...
> | > | > >
> | > | > >From the windows task manager the cpu usge is around 10-20%, when I
> | > | > >dial in to the internet I on average connect at 46kbps, currently
> at
> | > | > >49kbps. While watching the network Utilisation the network does not
> go
> | > | > >higher than 60%
> | > | > >
> | > | > >When the connection pauses, the whole system pauses, from screen
> | > | > >refresh to my typing...
> | > | >
> | > | > Have you tried an external modem, you may have a software modem.
> | > |
> | > | You dont get an effect like that with those.
> |
> | > You do on certain setups;
> |
> | Not with his setup.
> |
> | > for instance with a pc chips pc100 mobo,
> | > which is heavily pci dependant,
> |
> | Whatever that last is sposed to mean...
> |
> | > running a HSP K56 internal software micromodem; (From experience.)
> |
> | Nothing like the config being discussed.
> |
> | > and quite possibly others
> |
> | You dont get effects like that with an internal
> | modem with the config being discussed.

> I got better things to do than argue with
> a brainless fuckwit who knows everything

Obviously not.
Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1118
Author: David. E. Goble
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 04:05
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 13:48:45 +0930, David. E. Goble
<degoble@gtech.computing> wrote:
>
>He is what I have (dont laugh)...
>
>msi k7t turbo2 v5 ms6330 mother board
>Duron 1g cpu
>1.1g SDRAM
>80g seagate 7200 rpm HDD
>17 inch lg studioworks 700s moniter
>Auriga geforce4 mx 440 64Mb DDR tv out agp 4x video card
>Internal Swannsmart 2 56k v.90 voice/fax/data modem
>Windows Xp Pro sp1 etc...
>
>From the windows task manager the cpu usge is around 10-20%, when I
>dial in to the internet I on average connect at 46kbps, currently at
>49kbps. While watching the network Utilisation the network does not go
>higher than 60%
>
>When the connection pauses, the whole system pauses, from screen
>refresh to my typing...
>
>Can anyone explain thanks.
>
Hi all, Can we get back to my problem...

Would the firewall or anti-virus prog be causing this...

I have not tried an external modem, but hopefully will be able to, in
the next few weeks...

I initally thought it was the cpu, being only 1g. But as I said
watching the cpu performance it only uses 10%-20%.

Would really like some feedback, thanks... I really can not see the
relatonship been the system pausing when the network lags/pauses.
Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1119
Author: Kadaitcha Man
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 04:24
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David. E. Goble wrote:

> Hi all, Can we get back to my problem...


What problem?

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Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1120
Author: George Durbridge
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:26
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For how long does it pause, and are the pauses associated
with any network activity?  If so, what sort of activity -
for instance, could it be blocking on DNS lookups?

On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 13:48:45 +0930
David. E. Goble <degoble@gtech.computing> wrote:

> Hi all;
> 
> He is what I have (dont laugh)...
> 
> msi k7t turbo2 v5 ms6330 mother board
> Duron 1g cpu
> 1.1g SDRAM
> 80g seagate 7200 rpm HDD
> 17 inch lg studioworks 700s moniter
> Auriga geforce4 mx 440 64Mb DDR tv out agp 4x video card
> Internal Swannsmart 2 56k v.90 voice/fax/data modem
> Windows Xp Pro sp1 etc...
> 
> From the windows task manager the cpu usge is around
10-20%, when I
> dial in to the internet I on average connect at 46kbps,
currently at
> 49kbps. While watching the network Utilisation the network
does not go
> higher than 60%
> 
> When the connection pauses, the whole system pauses, from
screen
> refresh to my typing...
> 
> Can anyone explain thanks.
> 
Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1121
Author: David. E. Goble
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:26
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:26:16 GMT, George Durbridge
<gdurbrid@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>
>For how long does it pause, and are the pauses associated
>with any network activity?  If so, what sort of activity -
>for instance, could it be blocking on DNS lookups?
>
Hi, thanks for replying.

No more than about 10-20 seconds and it does not seem to be associated
with any network activity. That is it happens while I am downloading
email, downloading newsgroups (I use free agent), surfing the web (I
use netscape 7+), kaza lite, icq. Any combination.

Sometimes the connection is totally fine...

The fact that the whole system stops is the concern. How can the
connection pause the use of me typing in notepad, while I download
email and newsgroups?
Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1122
Author: George Durbridge
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:19
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:56:55 +0930
David. E. Goble <degoble@gtech.computing> wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:26:16 GMT, George Durbridge
> <gdurbrid@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> >
> >For how long does it pause, and are the pauses associated
> >with any network activity?  If so, what sort of activity
-
> >for instance, could it be blocking on DNS lookups?
> >
> Hi, thanks for replying.
> 
> No more than about 10-20 seconds and it does not seem to
be associated
> with any network activity. That is it happens while I am
downloading
> email, downloading newsgroups (I use free agent), surfing
the web (I
> use netscape 7+), kaza lite, icq. Any combination.
> 
> Sometimes the connection is totally fine...
> 
> The fact that the whole system stops is the concern. How
can the
> connection pause the use of me typing in notepad, while I
download
> email and newsgroups?

If there is lots of disk activity when it pauses, it may be
swapping to virtual memory on disk.  That would interrupt
other activities.  But in your original post, you said you
had 1.1GB of memory, which should be plenty, and which XP
should be able to cope with.  If it is swapping to disk, you
need to reduce the number of applications open at the same
time.

Otherwise, it looks as if a high-priority task is hogging
the CPU.  This is probably kernel or device driver code
(particularly if you mean that the CPU usage during these
pauses is only 10 or 20%).  You can't change the kernel, so
I would be inclined to replace the device driver if you can.
 Look for a newer device driver for your modem.  If you
can't find a new device driver, or if it doesn't fix the
problem, beg, borrow or steal a hardware modem (external
serial or internal ISA, but not PCI or USB) and see if the
problem goes away.  If you can't try a hardware modem, try a
different software modem - i.e. completely different driver.
Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1124
Author: Kadaitcha Man
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:25
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David. E. Goble wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:26:16 GMT, George Durbridge
> <gdurbrid@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> For how long does it pause, and are the pauses associated
>> with any network activity?  If so, what sort of activity -
>> for instance, could it be blocking on DNS lookups?
>>
> Hi, thanks for replying.

George DuHbridge is an idiot. He wasted all your time then told you a total
pack of shit. Go here: http://kadaitcha.ath.cx/articles/high_cpu.aspx

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Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1125
Author: George Durbridge
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:59
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:25:57 +1000
"Kadaitcha Man" <kadaitcha_man@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

> David. E. Goble wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:26:16 GMT, George Durbridge
> > <gdurbrid@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> >>
> >> For how long does it pause, and are the pauses
associated
> >> with any network activity?  If so, what sort of
activity -
> >> for instance, could it be blocking on DNS lookups?
> >>
> > Hi, thanks for replying.
> 
> George DuHbridge is an idiot. He wasted all your time then
told you a total
> pack of shit. Go here:
http://kadaitcha.ath.cx/articles/high_cpu.aspx

This half-wit seems not to have read the stuff he has copied
onto his web page, let alone your original post.  His page
says high CPU usage may be caused by old drivers for
software modems, and can be overcome by replacing them with
hardware modems.   Which is what I said.
Re: ? when network pauses, sytem pauses
#1127
Author: George Durbridge
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:22
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:04:39 +1000
"Kadaitcha Man" <kadaitcha_man@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

> Internal ISA? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Are you too young to have used ISA modems, or just too
stupid to understand how they work?
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