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Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:00
What Atheists Can't Answer
Author: sdr
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:00
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:00
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What Atheists Can't Answer By Michael Gerson Friday, July 13, 2007; Page A17 Washington Post " Human nature, in other circumstances, is also clearly constructed for cruel exploitation, uncontrollable rage, icy selfishness and a range of other less desirable traits. So the dilemma is this: How do we choose between good and bad instincts? Theism, for several millennia, has given one answer: We should cultivate the better angels of our nature because the God we love and respect requires it. While many of us fall tragically short, the ideal remains. Atheism provides no answer to this dilemma. It cannot reply: "Obey your evolutionary instincts" because those instincts are conflicted. "Respect your brain chemistry" or "follow your mental wiring" don't seem very compelling either. It would be perfectly rational for someone to respond: "To hell with my wiring and your socialization, I'm going to do whatever I please." " Consider, Mr. Gerson: If it were the case that religion is our instructor, then there would be no prisons. There are, and consider, further, that the most religious (at least professing to be) group in this country is the two million criminals in our prisons. 'Nouf said. But if you still think that morality/ethics is in any way/shape/form associated with religious belief, then but think about the depravity of priests and preachers --who have been caught. Shouldn't that, at least, be enough to remove any convictions you might have had about religious instruction "bettering" our "naturally evil nature." Further: People who think they should be good BECAUSE their God requires it are only setting themselves up for the most evil preacher's definition of The Good. Time and time again we have seen preachers "inform" their congregations that God wants them to fight this or that war (Confederate preachers urged their congregations to kill as many Yankees as possible), or to butcher and plunder this or that people (in the best of Islamic traditions, Turkish preachers told their congregations that murdering Armenians for their possessions (and raping their women and children before slaughtering them) was what God expected of them... and because acknowledging this monstrous truth about Islam before the whole world is so impossible, the Turks to this day refuse to acknowledge that the Armenian/Muslim genocide even ever took place). But I don't have to prove to any parent that we are ALL born with unfettered instincts--to be "bettered" by the (sometimes even the most casual & offhand) instructions of our parents and societies: Every child KNOWS the difference between good and evil (deeds) by the time he/she is four or five. And if they don't, then that is a certain sign that such children live in a warped and perverted society or family. The four-year-old who does "evil" may not yet know how to "get away with it," but he certainly knows he had better not get caught doing it. Therefore, if there be man or woman on this earth who still does not know the difference between Good and Evil... let them inquire of any (as-yet religiously- uninstructed) four-year-old: for he will surely know, and tell them. S D Rodrian http://poems.sdrodrian.com http://physics.sdrodrian.com http://mp3s.sdrodrian.com All religions are local. Only science is universal.
Re: What Atheists Can't Answer
Author: peteinchicago
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:44
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:44
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On Jul 16, 5:00 am, sdr <sdrodr...@sdrodrian.com> wrote: > All religions are local. > Only science is universal. people are agitated because of NOISE drive out to the country beyond the city lights - and LOOK UP at 0430 look to the eastern sky - see the twilight listen to the birds - birds know so much more than we do the last thing you wanna do at a campground is turn on a radio -- you want to cream in your drawers - go tent camping...sit around a fire ring - your creator isn't far behind life is so simple and we make it so fucking complicated
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