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weasel@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Rosenberg) writes:

>I have for the past few years been compiling a list of quotes.  It is
>currently around 47k or so.  Should I post it?  If I do I would post it by
>moderately arbitrary topic divisions that I've put into it.

>I've seen a decent percentage of it floating around the net, but certainly not
>all of it.  I will of course, leave out all of the quotes I've just grabbed
>off alt.quotations that I plan on adding to it in the near future :)

>Comments?

Please do - it will supplement my Oxford, Bartlett, Penguin, etc
dictionaries.    BUT has it as good an index!

Chris.

In article <acjbooks.727868446@citr.uq.oz.au> acjbooks@citr.uq.oz.au (ACJ Books (Chris)) writes:
>weasel@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Rosenberg) writes:

>>I have for the past few years been compiling a list of quotes.  It is
>>currently around 47k or so.  Should I post it?  If I do I would post it by
>>moderately arbitrary topic divisions that I've put into it.
[stuff munged]
>
>Please do - it will supplement my Oxford, Bartlett, Penguin, etc
>dictionaries.    BUT has it as good an index!

At 47k, it might be best if you'd compress and uuencode it before
posting, though I'm sure the net has seen worse in raw text.

If anyone really wants, I guess I could do the same with the files
I've gathered, as well; closer to 80k, some from famous sources, some
that I overheard personally.

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In article <acjbooks.727868446@citr.uq.oz.au> acjbooks@citr.uq.oz.au (ACJ Books (Chris)) writes:
>weasel@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Rosenberg) writes:
>
>>I have for the past few years been compiling a list of quotes.  It is
>>currently around 47k or so.  Should I post it?  If I do I would post it by
>>moderately arbitrary topic divisions that I've put into it.
>
>>I've seen a decent percentage of it floating around the net, but certainly not
>>all of it.  I will of course, leave out all of the quotes I've just grabbed
>>off alt.quotations that I plan on adding to it in the near future :)
>
>>Comments?
>
>Please do - it will supplement my Oxford, Bartlett, Penguin, etc
>dictionaries.    BUT has it as good an index!

It's divided by topics, such as "Love", "Politics/Law", "Science", etc...
This includes the "Misc" topic and the "Uncategorized" topic which is due
largely to laziness or uncertainty.
Within each topic, the quotes are alphabetical by speaker, unless unknown in
which case they're at the end.  There is no cross-referenced list of speakers.

At the time I started it, this seemed like the best way to do it, and I've
left it as such with minor revisions.

--Weasel

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In article <1jvgn2INNl97@FROG.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU> gugler-sean@cs.yale.edu (Sean Gugler) writes:
>In article <acjbooks.727868446@citr.uq.oz.au> acjbooks@citr.uq.oz.au (ACJ Books (Chris)) writes:
>>weasel@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Rosenberg) writes:
>
>>>I have for the past few years been compiling a list of quotes.  It is
>>>currently around 47k or so.  Should I post it?  If I do I would post it by
>>>moderately arbitrary topic divisions that I've put into it.

>At 47k, it might be best if you'd compress and uuencode it before
>posting, though I'm sure the net has seen worse in raw text.

I've updated it and basically have it ready to go, but I haven't decided how I
want to post it yet.  It's aprox. 50k, 1490 lines or so.  I've seen larger
things, both in line number and in byte size posted to various groups in the
past.  Compressed and uuencoded it would probably save about 15k and would
reduce the #lines to something like 550-600.  This is a bit more inconvenient
(not for me but for the reader).  On the other hand, dividing it into a number
of parts (say 3 or 5) would be slightly more inconvenient for me, possibly
slightly inconvenient for the reader, but allows people to see what they're
getting.  

As of this point, I would be tempted to just post as is, but will wait to see
what the general consensus is.

>If anyone really wants, I guess I could do the same with the files
>I've gathered, as well; closer to 80k, some from famous sources, some
>that I overheard personally.

Probably not a bad idea, but maybe we should wait to see how one goes first :)

	--Weasel

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*  "Weasel is not a nickname --     |   weasel@merle.acns.nwu.edu            * 
*   it's a state of mind."          |   weasel@nwu.edu                       *
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"Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid"
	Heinrich Heine

> > I have for the past few years been compiling a list of quotes.  It is
> > currently around 47k or so.  Should I post it? 

> At 47k, it might be best if you'd compress and uuencode it before
> posting...

I think this is a bad suggestion.  It creates a significant nuisance for
the reader, it saves only a small percentage of filespace, and at least
for non-NNTP sites, it costs *more* in terms of transmission time.  Save
uuencode for real binary postings.

And 47K bytes isn't all that large anyway, compared to, for example,
some of the FAQ lists that are posted regularly... and they're always
in straight text form.

Splitting the posting into sections, and maybe not posting them all
on the same day, might be a good idea for a different reason -- most
people probably don't *want* to read that many quotations at once.
Compare rec.humor.funny's treatment of its "one-liner file".

ObQuote:
   Tortoise:  But we must be careful in combining sentences.  For instance,
              you'd grant that "Politicians lie" is true, wouldn't you?
   Achilles:  Who could deny it?
   Tortoise:  Good.  Likewise, "Cast-iron sinks" is a valid utterance,
              isn't it?
   Achilles:  Indubitably.
   Tortoise:  Then, putting them together, we get "Politicians lie
              in cast-iron sinks" ...
(Douglas R. Hofstadter, "Godel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid")

ObSigQuote:
-- 
Mark Brader            \  "He's suffering from Politicians' Logic."
SoftQuad Inc., Toronto  \ "Something must be done, this is something, therefore
utzoo!sq!msb, msb@sq.com \ we must do it."   -- Lynn & Jay: YES, PRIME MINISTER

In article <acjbooks.727868446@citr.uq.oz.au> acjbooks@citr.uq.oz.au (ACJ Books (Chris)) writes:
   Please do - it will supplement my Oxford, Bartlett, Penguin, etc
   dictionaries.    BUT has it as good an index!

What do you need an index for when you've got keyword search?
--

   Nihil tam absurde dici potest, quod non dicatur ab aliquo philosophorum.
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