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Re: bincancel:31 large binaries:AR220:@@NCM

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From: John Stanley
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:28
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In article <y-tony-2303960313500001@ppp-75-4.bu.edu>,
Y. Tony Lee <y-tony@acs.bu.edu> wrote:
>   I find a problem right here.  What does "unmoderated" mean?  I thought
>"moderated" means that a person or a small group of people must authorize
>a posting before it goes public while an "unmoderated" newsgroup mean that
>authorization is not required.  With this bincancel bot, you are thus
>giving yourself autorization to moderated, albeit in a limited way.  I

That's right. 

There are a few people, however, who think their objections to seeing
certain things gives them the right to remove them net-wide. Richard
started his "retroactive minimal moderation" program by deciding that 
people who used a certain anonymous server to post didn't have that
right anymore, so he spent a weekend removing any articles from them
he could find in the sci hierarchy. Unfortunately for him, he only
found two, and one was resurrected immediately.

>   OK, you have saved us 6 megabytes of bandwidth.  

No, not really. By the time his cancels were issued, the articles had
been distributed to most of the net. In fact, for those UUCP sites 
which the binaries might have caused problems, the admins there got to
see the binaries get copied to their system (already in the batch,
cancels don't remove them), then immediately get removed by a cancel in
the next batch.

This is a well-known problem with retroactive moderation.

>   Where does it end Richard?  Will you start cancelling 50k, 20k, or even
>2k binary files? 

NO BINARIES is the goal.
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Subject: Re: bincancel:31 large binaries:AR220:@@NCM
Date: 23 Mar 1996 15:28:30 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
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