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Article #3Re: Bye-bye USA?
From: arminius
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:50
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:50
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"Martin Holterman" <martin.holterman@wxs.nl> wrote in message news:d81ep6$bq3$1@reader08.wxs.nl... > Antimulticulture wrote: > > > Bye-bye USA? > > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44609 > > June 6, 2005 > > > > It's amazing what happens when the people - the little people - make their > > voices heard. Very often, what they say doesn't jibe with what they're > > supposed to believe. > > > > It's amazing that the governing elite even allow it to happen. > > > > Truth be known, if the elite had their druthers, it would never be permitted > > because they really don't want to know what the average citizen believes or > > wants. Nor do they care. > > > > If the truth be known, the governing elite believe they know best for > > everyone. They believe they are anointed with, and should have, the power to > > put in place their political, economic, cultural, educational, social and, > > yes, even moral and religious guidelines. > > > > It doesn't matter whether you're talking about elections in this country - > > consider the ongoing sour grapes about the last two presidential races - or, > > the vote in France and the Netherlands on the proposed E.U. constitution. > > > > Candidates or issues are put before "the people" with the expectation that > > the desires of the elite will be confirmed, but when the votes are in - > > well, lowrdy me, surprise, surprise - what a shock it is! > > > > I guess the indoctrination didn't work. Guess they'll have to reconfigure > > the sales pitch, but then again, maybe not. Then again, maybe the impact of > > the result will make the "little people" realize the power they really have. > > > > Maybe they will realize it isn't safe or wise to put the entire future of > > your country - and indeed your continent - in the hands of a group of elites > > who have a vision of the future that isn't quite what the people have in > > mind. Maybe they will realize that if they go along to get along, they will > > end up living in a country, in a society that has no reflection of their own > > history, their own independence and their own identity. > > > > There are 25 E.U. countries and nine had approved the constitution before > > the French vote. Clearly President Jacques Chirac and his supporters thought > > they had a sure thing. Why else would they have allowed the issue to go > > before the people? Talk about being blindsided and, now, not only is the > > E.U. concept in jeopardy, but so are political careers thought to be > > bulletproof. > > > Article 54 of the French Constitution: > "Si le Conseil Constitutionnel (...) a d�clar� qu'un engagement > international comporte une clause contraire � la Constitution, > l'autorisation de ratifier ou d'approuver l'engagement internationanl en > cause ne peut intervenir qu'apres r�vision de la Constitution." > > Article 89: > "(...) La r�vision est d�finitive apr�s avoir �t� approuv�e par r�f�rendum." > > > The French people said "non" with a vote of 54 to 46 percent, which was bad > > enough until the Dutch had their turn. Stunningly, they nixed the proposed > > constitution 62 to 38 per cent. > > > > You'll hear and read all kinds of interpretations as to why the people said > > no, but bottom line, it appears the core of the dissatisfaction with the > > currently popular view of the "new Europe" rests with the ultimate goal of > > ending the sovereignty of individual countries, the power that would rest > > with a central government, central court system, central monetary system - > > essentially, central everything. > > > > Look at it this way: How would you vote if the issue on the table would > > change our entire system of law, finance, currency, trade, borders, > > language, education, culture, religion and, on top of that, eliminate our > > Constitution? > > > > It's a pretty big order and not one to be approached lightly. If your > > reaction to such a proposal would be a loud "NO," consider that the United > > States is little more than 200 years old with a system that guides all the > > states and, despite the multicultural, open-border advocates among us, just > > one language. > > > > [Ed. Multiculturalism is imposed demographic change by a handful of such elites, > > and in a democracy you have every right not to like this form of cultural > > suicide...] > > > > Look at the history of Europe. Consider the varied cultures, languages and > > political histories of the 25 nations involved in the European Union. Are > > they just to throw out everything and start over? That is the mantra of the > > ruling elite who only look at two bottom lines: money and power. > > > > They want to centralize power and control trade. They envision creating, > > with the stroke of a few pens, a "country" to compete with the United > > States. What they ignore is that we became the powerhouse we are because of > > the freedoms granted by our Constitution and by the innovation and energy of > > our people. Our government didn't create the economic powerhouse that is the > > USA - our form of government allowed citizens the freedom to succeed. > > > > The E.U. advocates just don't get it. But the people do, and it appears they > > don't want to be part of a huge, European super-state, forged by politicians > > who essentially don't give a fig what the people want. Since to be ratified, > > all 25 states must approve the E.U. constitution - all 448 articles of it - > > they face a dilemma. As can be expected, the proponents plan to forge ahead. > > > > From our side of the pond, I hope our politicians are paying attention - and > > that extends to the White House. While our media lament and moan about the > > E.U. vote, too little attention is being paid to the fact that we're moving > > closer to more free-trade agreements that would essentially do the same > > thing to us. There was NAFTA, the Caribbean Free Trade Initiative and now, > > with the support of the administration, CAFTA and ultimately, the goal of > > open trade and open borders from the tip of South America to the top of > > Canada. > > > > Are you ready for that? It'll change more than trade. Think about it. One of > > the most effective tools of the elite who want to change things is to keep > > you, the people, in the dark. > > > > They've already moved us well along on these issues and if we, the people > > don't wake up and rattle some cages, we'll be had. And we won't even have > > the opportunity to vote "yes" or "no." It will be done to us. Because the > > elite know better. Or do they? > >
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