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Article #52Re: hearing vs speaking.
From: Dave Wright
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:28
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:28
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In article <1992Nov17.210853.14838@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes: >In article <Nov17.153055.54833@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> gw214790@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Galen Watts) writes: >>In article <1992Nov17.012614.20277@athena.mit.edu> philo@athena.mit.edu (philo) writes: >>>lecturer once. One of the things that he said was that a spectrum analysis of the >>>speach right near the ear of the listener did not agree with the spectrum of the >>>sound as it left the mouth of the person who is talking. However, the fourrier >>>components agreed to a large degree. >>> >>>Does any one have a better understanding of this concept that I do? I think >>>this could be a very interesting question. >>>-philo. >>>dakhlak.... hawn nazl s suruur? >>> (Ziad) >> >> >>Unless you were in an anechoic chamber, the reverberent field will always >>change the frequency content of any acoustic signal. High frequencies will >>be attenuated by the air in the path from source to ear. Also, the microphone >>used to get the acoustic signal into the Fourier analyzer has a non-flat >>frequency response. > >Any respectable lab setup will use a calibrated mic, and correct for >that in the measurements. > >Of course, even ignoring all the other effects, there's the very real >effect that the body (and head, for that matter) have on the >percieved signal, as well as relative position and orientation of >speaker and listener, all of which effect the spectrum of the signal >in the ear. >-- >Jonathan E. Quist INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation >jeq@i88.isc.com '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094 Naperville, IL > There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime. > Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh. With MLSSA or TEF or even spectrum analyzers like ARIEL's the energy reaching the measurment device can factor out the response of the microphone knowing it's measurments. These devices can also sort out the direct sound and reflections from the room or any surface reflector. In response to the original post, I think what was being talked about is the spectrum content of a voice is different on-axis coming out of the mouth from off-axis such as by the ear. Anyone that has listened to themselves over tape recorders such as Video or Phone anwsering machines knows that we sound different to ourselves live than from these recordings for many reason's acoustical and mechanical transmission through the body. Dave Wright
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Newsgroups: alt.sci.physics.acoustics Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ornl!sunova!linac!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!rpi!batcomputer!reed!flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU!gaia.ucs.orst.edu!umn.edu!mmm.serc.3m.com!mmc.mmmg.com!timbuk.cray.com!walter.cray.com!daw From: daw@cray.com (Dave Wright) Subject: Re: hearing vs speaking. Message-ID: <1992Nov18.132857.8059@walter.cray.com> Lines: 49 Nntp-Posting-Host: nothing.cray.com Organization: Cray Research, Inc. References: <1992Nov17.012614.20277@athena.mit.edu> <Nov17.153055.54833@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <1992Nov17.210853.14838@i88.isc.com> Date: 18 Nov 92 13:28:56 CST