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Re: NO MURDER PROSECUTION KANE COUNTY ILLINOIS

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From: peteinchicago
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:32
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"Robert L. Bass" <robertlbass@comcast.net> wrote in message 
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>> robert - you were doing fine until the very last sentence
>>
>> "the trier of fact" NOT the Court
>
> Well, if we're going to get technical, the expression "Trier of Fact" can 
> refer either to the judge or the jury.  Together with lawyers and a record 
> keeper, these form the court.  In a jury trial the jury determines the 
> facts; the judge the law.  In a bench trial the judge is both the trier of 
> fact and of law.
>
> Judges sometimes use 'court' to refer to themselves in the third person, 
> as in 'the court has read the briefs.'
>
> -- Lectric Law Library's Lexicon

i've never heard the "Court" referred to as "the whole shootin' match"

the "Court" is the judge...not the Court Reporter, not the Clerk, not the 
Bailiff...not the attorneys...jointly and severally

i got my j.d. in '79 and my LL.M (Legum Magister) in '82...quit reading that 
bullshit from Lectric Law Library and listen to uncle pete

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