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gostl@argos.argoscomp.com (Jack Gostl) wrote:

>Version 1.6 of WPGP is now available at
http://www.panix.com/~jgostl/wpgp.
>
>In addition to the traditional bug fixes, the major change in
version 1.6
>is the addition of a drag/drop interface for file encryption. There
are
>also a number of smaller improvements, like passphrase timeouts,
automatic
>requests to keyservers, and German language tech support. I won't
>waste bandwidth here describing them all here.  You can go straight
to
>http://www.panix.com/~jgostl/wpgp/newfeat.html for a summary. 
>



This is the front end that really makes PGP going. It's as
convenient as putting a letter into an envelope. "to practice the
commands of PGP" is to me to have missed the whole idea of computing.
Have machines do all routinely repeated things. Don't use your brain
as a store house but as a workshop!

Well WPGP is expensive. You have to give Mr Gostl 35 bucks. If you
stop drinking for a few months you will manage it and it's worth the
suffering. More over it's only good for you anyway  ?;^)


Greetings
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goran@adevik.pp.se(Goran Adevik)

On Sat, 20 Apr 1996 11:53:40 GMT, goran@adevik.pp.se (Goran Adevik)
wrote:

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>Well WPGP is expensive. You have to give Mr Gostl 35 bucks. If you
>stop drinking for a few months you will manage it and it's worth the
>suffering. More over it's only good for you anyway  ?;^)

The $35 is nothing compared to the costs you are imposing on all users
of the internet by using PGP and inflating your message by about 50%.

I certainly hope that if newsreaders authors are to include an
automatic PGP system with their products, they also provide an
automatic filter to enable me to ignore any usenet messages with this
rubbish.

I do understand the need for message and signature verification in
some cases.  However, I cannot for the life of me see any case for it
in the quoted message. 


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Allan Mikkelsen                amikkels@melbpc.org.au
Melbourne PC User Group

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amikkels@melbpc.org.au (Allan Mikkelsen) wrote:


 ... deletia ...
>I certainly hope that if newsreaders authors are to include an
>automatic PGP system with their products, they also provide an
>automatic filter to enable me to ignore any usenet messages with this
>rubbish.

  Mr. Mikkelson ... if this is indeed how you feel, and you are so
entitled, I am wondering just why you bother hanging out on a.s.p
where the probability of having to subject yourself to such messages
is infinitely greater.

>I do understand the need for message and signature verification in
>some cases.  However, I cannot for the life of me see any case for it
>in the quoted message. 

   At the risk of resurrecting a horse thats been throughly flogged,
one must sign every message regardless of its import to establish
your identity in that any message appearing from you without a digsig
should be suspect.


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 Brian B. Riley --> http://www.together.com/~brianbr
  "If this is the first day of the rest of my life, I am in DEEP trouble!"

In article <3179ecef.8620259@news.melbpc.org.au>, amikkels@melbpc.org.au wrote:
>
>The $35 is nothing compared to the costs you are imposing on all users
>of the internet by using PGP and inflating your message by about 50%.
>

    Well, the small increase in PGP overhead is minimal compared to all the 
Real audio, Live Talk, full video, and all that other bandwidth eating junk on 
the WEB.  Complain about that, first, for a real improvement in Internet 
transfer speed.


  Ed

: >Well WPGP is expensive. You have to give Mr Gostl 35 bucks. If you
: >stop drinking for a few months you will manage it and it's worth the
: >suffering. More over it's only good for you anyway  ?;^)

: Hmm... Are we now to have a minor war on which is better: WPGP or
: PGPClip?  Dr. Wilson has released the new version of his Windows PGP
: front end, and it too is at v1.6.  :)

: Benefits compared to WPGP: Cheaper registration, no increasing
: wait-time for unregistered users, 16 and 32bit versions, and a hideable
: main window with almost all commands accessible from the PGPClip icon
: in the System Tray (32bit version only).

Jeff... I really have to make a comment here. These are different 
products with different audiences. WPGP has a higher registration fee, 
yes, but most of the other items aren't really relevant. The current 
release works with both 16 and 32 bit apps, can be reduced to an almost 
invisible screen presence, offers full file encryption and works under 
all operating systems including OS/2.

If you prefer PGPClip, by all means use it. If it provides the 
functionality you need at a lower price, it is a sensible decision, but 
you really need to compare apples to apples.

--

Jack Gostl	gostl@argoscomp.com

Allan Mikkelsen (amikkels@melbpc.org.au) wrote:
: On Sat, 20 Apr 1996 11:53:40 GMT, goran@adevik.pp.se (Goran Adevik)
: wrote:

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: >Well WPGP is expensive. You have to give Mr Gostl 35 bucks. If you
: >stop drinking for a few months you will manage it and it's worth the
: >suffering. More over it's only good for you anyway  ?;^)

: The $35 is nothing compared to the costs you are imposing on all users
: of the internet by using PGP and inflating your message by about 50%.


Am I missing something here ? When *I* compress a text message using
PGP, the message size actually *drops* by at least 50%, often more than
80%.....

When I encrypt I large binary file, a 50 MB arj file for example, the
resultant encrypted file is 500 K *smaller*....

I think that you should probably consider the validity of your *facts*
before making abusive posts such as this one.....

If you have such a negative attitude towards the generalized use of PGP,
then what the heck are you bothering to read this newsgroup for in the
first place ? If it is just to distribute pearls of wisdom such as the
above, I can assure you that myself, and (I suspect) many other reader
would be just as happy if you went somewhere else.....


Duane Schultz
ccdps@luxor.latrobe.edu.au

: I certainly hope that if newsreaders authors are to include an
: automatic PGP system with their products, they also provide an
: automatic filter to enable me to ignore any usenet messages with this
: rubbish.

: I do understand the need for message and signature verification in
: some cases.  However, I cannot for the life of me see any case for it
: in the quoted message. 


: ---------------------------------------------------------------
: Allan Mikkelsen                amikkels@melbpc.org.au
: Melbourne PC User Group

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After meeting his own wife, Vir was talking to Goran Adevik about Re:
WPGP version 1.6:

>Well WPGP is expensive. You have to give Mr Gostl 35 bucks. If you
>stop drinking for a few months you will manage it and it's worth the
>suffering. More over it's only good for you anyway  ?;^)

Hmm... Are we now to have a minor war on which is better: WPGP or
PGPClip?  Dr. Wilson has released the new version of his Windows PGP
front end, and it too is at v1.6.  :)

Benefits compared to WPGP: Cheaper registration, no increasing
wait-time for unregistered users, 16 and 32bit versions, and a hideable
main window with almost all commands accessible from the PGPClip icon
in the System Tray (32bit version only).

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