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Re: ibm-compadible vs the Mac

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From: John Stevens
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 00:00
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On 23 Sep 1997 01:53:29 GMT, Willie Yeo <yeo@pigeon.qut.edu.au> wrote:
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>Lance Togar (ltogar@msn.com) wrote:
>	I know Windows NT doesn't. But Windows 95 still *DOES*.

Nope.  Not according to what I've been learnig.  DOS may be used to
*launch* 95, and you can certainly run DOS apps *IN* 95, but 95
does not run *ON* DOS.

>It still executes AUTOEXEC.BAT and 
>CONFIG.SYS on MS-DOS before passing to Win 95, if you don't believe, just 
>press <ESC> while the Windows 95 is starting logo.

Certainly.  DOS is being used as a loader for Win 95, but that doesn't prove
that 95 runs *ON* DOS.

I load Linux from DOS occasionally.  But Linux doesn't run *ON* DOS.

>	You can even insert a line in AUTOEXEC.BAT to terminate before 
>even going into Windows 95.

Sure.  All you are doing is stopping DOS from loading Windows 95.

>Half of my friends and programmers in fact 
>acknowledged it is a GUI above MS-DOS like Windows 3.11.

Your programmers need to take a little better look at the techincal docs.

>WIN32 SDK does 
>not prove nothing ... you look at the startup sequence,

The startup sequence proves nothing, except about what happens at startup.

>look at the file 
>naming convention 8 dot 3.

I am forced to restrict myself to 8.3 when I save files on an MS-DOS file
system while running Linux.  This does not prove that Linux runs on DOS,
it only proves that 8.3 is a restriction of the FAT file system.

>You *STILL* have to use 8 dot 3 even if your 
>filename is longer then 12 characters, which is strictly MS-DOS at work.

Nope.  MS-DOS is the name of the Operating System.  What you are seeing at
work is the file system (a part of the OS, to be sure, but. . .), not the OS.

>WinNT is *KWEL*,

WinNT. . . urgh!  Better than Windows 95, but even so. . . 

> but Win 95 plain is a joke.

Well, I won't disagree with *THIS* statement! ;->

>'pre-emptive' 
>multitasking on Win 95 ? *rofl* It's a wonder why people do not move 
>across to Windows NT!

1) Cost?
2) Because people don't actually choose their OS, they run what comes
   pre-loaded on their system?

John S.
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From: jstevens@samoyed.ftc.nrcs.usda.gov (John Stevens)
Subject: Re: ibm-compadible vs the Mac
Date: 1997/09/26
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