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Article #10Re: Who speaks for the baby?
From: Karen Gordon
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:43
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:43
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Mark Sebree (sebree@infionline.net) writes: > On Apr 20, 2:30=A0pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote: >> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:41:32 -0700 (PDT), Mark Sebree <seb...@infionline.n= > et> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> When they are human, they are unborn children. >> >> >No, they are still embryos and fetuses. >> >> They human life with a soul. >> >First, you have never shown that a soul even exists. >> >> God said it does. > > I do not care what you claim when you cannot support those claims. > Calling yourself "god" does not help. All that does is show the > weakness of your position, and admit that you cannot support your > claim. > >> >> >Second, they are embryos and fetuses. >> >> They are human life pre-birth. > > They are not human beings or persons. They are embryos and fetuses. > > The woman is a person and a human being, and it is her body that is > being used against her will. > >> >> >Third, so the woman that you ignore and that is having her body used >> >against her will > > [replace rest of paragraph that was dishonestly snipped] > >> > and without her consent by the embryo/fetus is a >> > human being and a person, and if it exists, possesses this mythical >> > soul that you mentioned. What's more, she is not bound by your >> > superstitions, beliefs, or opinions > > [end replacement] > >> >> She chose to put it there. > > Not is the pregnancy was unplanned and unwanted. Chances are she was > using some method or methods of birth control to prevent the > pregnancy, and those methods failed. > >>=A0Don't claim it's against her will, turkey. > > Why not when it is the truth. If she wants to complete the pregnancy, > then the pregnancy is not unwanted and the embryo/fetus is not using > her body without her consent and without her permission. A woman that > is experiencing a wanted pregnancy does not get an abortion unless > there is a significant and verifiable medical reason for it, like an > etopic pregnancy. > > Just because you do not like the truth does not mean that I will stop > telling it to you. > > Mark Sebree > >> >> duke
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X-Google-Thread: 101e74,4b4ddd6a453dd482 X-Google-Thread: 10dda6,4b4ddd6a453dd482 X-Google-Thread: 104eff,4b4ddd6a453dd482 X-Google-Thread: 111a85,de1dbcfacfe2d55b X-Google-Attributes: gid101e74,gid10dda6,gid104eff,gid111a85,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.acm.uiuc.edu!news.xcski.com!ncf.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ar231 From: ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon) Newsgroups: alt.support.abortion,alt.politics.usa.misc,ca.politics,or.politics Subject: Re: Who speaks for the baby? Date: 20 Apr 2008 20:43:27 GMT Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 66 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <fug9tf$fmh$1@theodyn.ncf.ca> References: <e88ebf87-8986-487b-8ada-c1555e6ec231@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) NNTP-Posting-Host: smeagol.ncf.ca X-Trace: theodyn.ncf.ca 1208724207 16081 134.117.136.48 (20 Apr 2008 20:43:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: complaints@ncf.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Apr 2008 20:43:27 GMT