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On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:10:51 -0700 (PDT), Guillaume Ier de Normandie
<guillaumedenormandie@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Jul 31, 6:03�pm, Sarah Ehrett < ninety...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:27:12 -0700 (PDT), Guillaume Ier de Normandie
>>
>> <guillaumedenorman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> ***** �PAY ATTENTION SCOTTY *****************
>>
>> >> Disposition: PBJ UNSUPERVISED Disposition Date:03/21/1990
>>
>> >> ***********************************************
>>
>> >Can you explain to us how Probation BEFORE Judgment is used as a
>> >punishment AFTER a finding of guilt???
>>
>> Read the cite I've given you, Scotty. � I even cut-n-pasted the
>> relevant parts for you so you wouldn't strain your small feeble brain
>> trying to read the entire page. � :)
>>
>> " The best way to explain what Probation Before Judgement is, is to
>> explain what it is not. Probation Before Judgement is NOT a conviction
>> under Maryland Law.
>
>I understand that.  However, an accepted guilty plea IS a conviction.

Not in Maryland with the PBJ statute, and a PBJ UNSUPERVISED I might
add.  

>HTH
>
>> Under the statute a judge has the authority to
>> strike out the guilty finding in most any criminal case. �"
>
>And this did not happen in the present case, because the record still
>shows "GUILTY".

The plea was Guilty,  NOT THE FINDING by the Court.  

Finding a. A conclusion reached after examination or investigation:
the finding of a grand jury; 


>HTH
>
>> �" The benefit of Probation Before Judgement is that a person who
>> �receives Probation Before Judgement can honestly say or, for instance
>> �put on a job application, that the person was not convicted in the
>> �case and has no criminal record. �"
>>
>> http://www.marylandcriminalattorneyblog.com/2008/10/probation_before_...
>>
>> >And I've asked you why you haven't had this record expunged. �It sits
>> >there, and no matter what Maryland law says about PBJ, a person who
>> >sees a plea of guilty entered by the court will assume, almost
>> >certainly correctly, that the plea resulted in a conviction rather
>> >than an acquittal.
>>
>> An uneducated, stupid person might assume INcorrectly. �However
>> intelligent people being given the facts cited will understand the PBJ
>> statute.
>
>PBJ is not a conviction, because it happens BEFORE JUDGMENT (the "BJ"
>in "PBJ").

That's correct.  No Judgment was EVER given.  

>However, in the present case, Kenneth Andrew Ehrett entered a plea of
>GUILTY, which was accepted by the court and constitutes a CONVICTION.

You are  INCORRECT.    

disposition n. the court's final determination of a lawsuit or
criminal charge.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/disposition


The DISPOSITION is clearly seen on the Court Document.  
DISPOSITION:  PBJ UNSUPERVISED.  

Unsupervised probation, no conviction, no fines, no court costs, nada.


All this because you can't read simple words on a few web sites.  

I'm beginning to think my original joke about you being a  " Dangerous
Untrainable Retard "  is true and it really is stamped on your college
transcripts.  

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