🚀 go-pugleaf

In article <ggns0ukq0mvluoshor66rsjctdm32kk64n@4ax.com>,
 <01dyna@my.house> wrote:
>On 05 Dec 2001 17:20:23 GMT, women fainted and men gasped when
>rstevew@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) casually remarked:
>
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><drug induced rant from Steve mercifully deleted>
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I don't use false drugs, I get high on the REAL things, a clean windshield,
powerful gasoline, and a shoeshine!


>Steve,
>
>Couple of things...you have absolutely no idea what qualifications I
>have in the child care field, nor of the work I've done or the type of
>parent I am.
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One, if the shoe doesn't fit quite trying to put it on.

Two, it doesn't matter if you were formally TAUGHT HOW to abuse children or
not, it's STILL ABUSE!! Much of the advice people get is merely abusive.


>Secondly,   as any parent, we have issues with our kid. And
>I'm not foolish enough to even *claim* to have all the answers or that
>my daughter is an angel, however we are *very* active in our childs
>development, including school activities, after school activities and
>her personal development.  That's all a parent can do.
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I know parents who literally tried to jam their child through puberty by
taking up all their time that way so they wouldn't have TIME to question or
make demands. It never works, the kids put on the brakes and drop out at
14 or 15 or so like they have been TOTALLY BETRAYED by those parents! 


>Be as much
>of your childs life as reasonably possible. The more active and
>involved a parent is in their childs life, the less probability that
>they'll end up needing a therapist when they grow up.
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That's not true, it depends on WHAT KIND of involvement! I knew a guy
who spend all his time abusing his kids, and his son knocked him the fuck
out on the living room floor and left, and then his daughter left in the
night and never wrote him or saw him again! I know her, she's a personal
friend and lover. Her father died two years ago and she didn't even bother
with it. So it depends what you call "involvement" and whether it's welcome
to your kids!


>And in case 
>you try and twist this into being a "meddlesome" parent, there's a
>difference and if you don't know what that is, this forum isn't the
>avenue of enlightenment you need.
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Your children are your judge, and the trial takes the rest of your life.


>From your aimless ranting, I seriously hope you aren't a father
>because I doubt you have a clue what being a responsible parent is
>all about.  
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Ho-hum, I'm almost 52, I have two kids M28(this week) and F25, and we
get along as friends, unlike MOST of the kids THEY know.


>Oh...and I'm not sure what *your* definition of "age appropriate
>behavior" is, but pipe bombing fellow students isn't on *my* list.
>01dyna
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No. But then I have no doubt about the kind of parental abuse that causes
anti-authoritarian over-reactions like that. Parents who treat their kids
like shit deserve what they get. Too bad more of THEM don't get a pipe
bomb!
Steve