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"Uncle Samuel" <Stars@Stripes.USA> wrote in message
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> Steve n Holly wrote:
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> > "Uncle Samuel" <Stars@Stripes.USA> wrote in message
> > news:3L8gd.4089584$6p.681326@news.easynews.com...
> >
> >>Steve n Holly wrote:
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> >>
> >>>"Uncle Samuel" <Stars@Stripes.USA> wrote in message
> >>>news:6U_fd.1964141$yk.326347@news.easynews.com...
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> >>>
> >>>>Steve n Holly wrote:
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>"Uncle Samuel" <Stars@Stripes.USA> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:6PDfd.1897663$yk.313098@news.easynews.com...
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Major Zoloft wrote:
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Seems like the Israelis kick butt every time they go to war, which
is
> >>>>>>>one of the reason I admire them so much.  Most of their wars have
> >
> > been
> >
> >>>>>>>wars of self defense.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>They have enemies on all their borders, yet they still manage to
> >>>
> >>>thrive.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>We have imaginary enemies on our borders and Bush and his cronies
> >
> > have
> >
> >>>>>>>the public in a frenzy.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Israel truly cares about security.  We really don't, aside from
> >
> > making
> >
> >>>>>>>it a political issue. Do you think their security allowed four inch
> >>>>>>>knives and box cutters on their commercial airliners?  Did they sub
> >
> > out
> >
> >>>>>>>security to a firm like Arkenbright (?) so that the contractor
could
> >>>>>>>hire people who didn't give a shit about their jobs?  When was the
> >
> > last
> >
> >>>>>>>El Al airliner hijacked? I don't think one was ever hijacked.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>GW's response to 9/11 is somehow portrayed as inspiring.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>It was and YOU are not!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Drop dead druggie.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mocking those who tell the truth will only hasten our downfall.
> >>>>
> >>>>Neither of you have, drop dead.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>neither of who have done what?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>told the truth.
> >
> >
> >
> > What do you see as GW Bush's response to 911, tell me, and tell me why
it
> > inspires you.  I honestly want to know how you see the issue.
>
>
> Fair question, I hope...
>
> He acted decisively to destroy the Taliban,

I agree, good job there.

 democratize the Afghans,

I disagree, democracy can not be imposed, and I think it's a farce, however
I am willing to wait a few years, say 5 or 8 to see how it goes.

> move in concert with the Pakistanis to root out terrorists in the
> mountains,

I think that the Pakistani central gov't has just a little more control over
what happens in the mountains by Iraq then Guiana and Greenland do.  For
hundarads of years there has been no government there, I think thats exactly
where Bin Laden still is hiding.

and networked with global police forces to apprehend al Qaeda
> around the world.

Al Quada is growing by leaps and bounds because we took the action we did,
unilateral invasion of Iraq.  Even if they hated Sadam they hate us more, no
one likes an invader.

>
> Domestically the TSA and Homeland Security have shored up our security
> and as a result there have been no further attacks on US soil.

Total BS--the airlines were safe before 9-11, they did not try to get a
knife on, they used objects, box cutters we stupidly allowed past security.
Our bad, the lunicy of security now serves no one, somehow it seems that
black, or Indian, or middle eastern people get additional security when i
fly--what about the shoe bomber?  The next attack will be by American born
Al Quida who will be white.

The patroit act simply erodes civil rights and adds police state powers to
the security forces.

The FBI sttill does not talk with the CIA, the 911 commission recomendations
have not been enacted (3 yrs later) the FBI still has antique computers...

>
> Additionally a quick move to eliminate a major sponsor of terror and
> weapons in Sod-em was made,

He was neither, but continue to believe it if you sleep better at night.
Saudi Arabia is the biggest supporter of terrorism, and since we dare not
upset the apple cart there nothing is done.

 and another democracy seeded in a region
> desperately in need of a consumer and liberty alternative to religious
> fanaticism and poverty.

A consumer alternative?? Give em coke and toyotas and they will be happy??
Again you can not impose democracy, and the religious mulahas are waxing in
influence even as we speak.


>
> All in all, and that's a quick summary at best, he did the right things,
> and he did them in a timely manner.


I just disagree in the strongest possable terms, i feel Bush made mainly
wrong moves, however sincerly, thanks for taking the time to write the
reply.

--Steve

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