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Article #3569Re depression
From: Luni
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 00:00
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 00:00
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--------------B9DE7596E83AE45D39BEF169 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Someone (anonymous, since cross-posting the Re): >I've been dx with >Anxiety/Panic Attacks (Disorder) and Clinical Depression>An I am on 10mg Paxil for them. Drugs will mess up your natural balances, and do not replace constructive work on attitudes. (I like taking drugs, too, though I prefer LSD and other stuff, but there is a high price for many drugs. Reading about receptor-molecule number changes and effects on "filter" organs (kidneys, liver) or/and other organs, depending on the drug, might be of interest for some. And I am not that good in altering attitudes constructively, either, and am far to egocentric and far too less considerate of others. Just thought I should mention it, anyway. ) There is no clinical depression, apart from in the vocablury of certain people, and for example certain branches making money by drugging people, and messing up their emotional balances at times irreversibly, so that they can never react natural to others in their life again, some turning more into some chemo-zombies. "Depression" is some vague term. One might have just been driving a car and not paid attention for a moment, and in the ensuing accident killed the rest of the family on board. Another might have been going the same rut for a long time, never travelled much, nor come to know much, and after too much routine in too set rails feel "depressed". A third might be already older, see that others have reached stuff in his life that he has not, and feels will not, and feel "depressed" about that. One might have the sky over him grey and rainy for many days in a row, and also for other reasons not be in the best of moods, and eventually feel "depressed". Another might not life much in the nature that he is part of and built for, but in artificial surroundings (maybe also not sleeping natural, but raising with some alarm clock), and after a while of that feel "depressed". Some might feel some emotions they do not like, and instead of watching which imbalances are indicated, and care wisely for that, mess up the entire sending station in the biosystem with some drug(s), like somone who each time he has a thorn in his foot takes painkillers, till he looks like a hedge-hog, and complain then that life is too spiky and stinging, and feels "depressed". Some had parents, who were intimidating or doing other stuff, so that the child did not have the self-confidence maybe that some others had, as an adult did not work much on altering that, are rather running from a fear "as if they would not land in the end in the own head again", so that the problems stack up they run from, maybe "the higher the mountain" becomes, the less being willing to deal with it, instead of maybe looking at the sources, maybe wonder about the bio-functions of inner ones in ancestors maybe long before humans, and maybe ask others who might have had similar problems how they dealt with that, and since they "flee from themselves" are not knowing themselves well, and therefore do not have much of a base to understand others well (if not maybe also some more clinging to the few they get along with), and eventually be "depressed". One might not provide his bio-systems well with what they need, also emotionally so that they send disturbance signals, (also maybe not be moving much as would be natual in nature, and also not be doing much sports), never have thought much about what he needs to be content while being realistic in that, and estimating what one has and had (many only when they go blind, or are in a wheel-chair, or have other trouble when getting older start to appreciate what before they took for granted and never valued much to have), and get "depressed". One I met had his familly gassed in Kurdistan, was living in a Greek place, and there I guess some might have called that "depressed". Depression is a very vague term. Could stick bunches of different individuals into one pot and label the lid so. Such labelling does not tell me the sources, though, nor how to constructively, wisely work on changing attitudes and life-style alterations. --------------B9DE7596E83AE45D39BEF169 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <pre>Someone (anonymous, since cross-posting the Re):</pre> <pre></pre> <pre></pre> <pre>>I've been dx with >Anxiety/Panic Attacks (Disorder) and Clinical Depression>An I am on 10mg Paxil for them.</pre> <pre></pre> <pre></pre> <pre>Drugs will mess up your natural balances,</pre> <pre>and do not replace constructive work on attitudes.</pre> <pre></pre> <pre></pre> <pre>(I like taking drugs, too, though I prefer LSD and other stuff,</pre> <pre>but there is a high price for many drugs.</pre> <pre>Reading about receptor-molecule number changes</pre> <pre>and effects on "filter" organs (kidneys, liver) or/and other organs, depending on the drug,</pre> <pre>might be of interest for some.</pre> <pre></pre> <pre>And I am not that good in altering attitudes constructively, either,</pre> <pre>and am far to egocentric and far too less considerate of others.</pre> <pre></pre> <pre>Just thought I should mention it, anyway. )</pre> <p> <p>There is no clinical depression, apart from in the vocablury of certain people, <br>and for example certain branches making money by drugging people, <br>and messing up their emotional balances at times irreversibly, <br>so that they can never react natural to others in their life again, <br>some turning more into some chemo-zombies. <p>"Depression" is some vague term. <p>One might have just been driving a car and not paid attention for a moment, <br>and in the ensuing accident killed the rest of the family on board. <p>Another might have been going the same rut for a long time, <br>never travelled much, nor come to know much, and after too much routine in too set rails feel "depressed". <p>A third might be already older, see that others have reached stuff in his life that he has not, <br>and feels will not, and feel "depressed" about that. <p>One might have the sky over him grey and rainy for many days in a row, <br>and also for other reasons not be in the best of moods, <br>and eventually feel "depressed". <p>Another might not life much in the nature that he is part of and built for, <br>but in artificial surroundings <br>(maybe also not sleeping natural, but raising with some alarm clock), <br>and after a while of that feel "depressed". <p>Some might feel some emotions they do not like, <br>and instead of watching which imbalances are indicated, <br>and care wisely for that, <br>mess up the entire sending station in the biosystem with some drug(s), <br>like somone who each time he has a thorn in his foot takes painkillers, <br>till he looks like a hedge-hog, <br>and complain then that life is too spiky and stinging, <br>and feels "depressed". <p>Some had parents, who were intimidating or doing other stuff, so that the child did not have the self-confidence maybe that some others had, <br>as an adult did not work much on altering that, <br>are rather running from a fear "as if they would not land in the end in the own head again", <br>so that the problems stack up they run from, maybe "the higher the mountain" becomes, the less being willing to deal with it, <br>instead of maybe looking at the sources, maybe wonder about the bio-functions of inner ones in ancestors maybe long before humans, <br>and maybe ask others who might have had similar problems how they dealt with that, <br>and since they "flee from themselves" are not knowing themselves well, <br>and therefore do not have much of a base to understand others well <br>(if not maybe also some more clinging to the few they get along with), <br>and eventually be "depressed". <p>One might not provide his bio-systems well with what they need, <br>also emotionally so that they send disturbance signals, <br>(also maybe not be moving much as would be natual in nature, and also not be doing much sports), <br>never have thought much about what he needs to be content while being realistic in that, <br>and estimating what one has and had <br>(many only when they go blind, or are in a wheel-chair, or have other trouble when getting older start to appreciate what before they took for granted and never valued much to have), <br>and get "depressed". <p>One I met had his familly gassed in Kurdistan, <br>was living in a Greek place, and there I guess some might have called that "depressed". <br> <br> <br> <p>Depression is a very vague term. <p>Could stick bunches of different individuals into one pot and label the lid so. <br>Such labelling does not tell me the sources, though, <br>nor how to constructively, wisely work on changing attitudes <br>and life-style alterations. <br> </html> --------------B9DE7596E83AE45D39BEF169--
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