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On 08/07/09 4:40 PM, in article 7e3hpqF2e3eleU1@mid.individual.net, "Thomas
Dehn" <thomas-usenet@arcor.de> wrote:

> x-no-archive: yes
> 
> 
> cal wrote:
>> On 08/07/09 11:08 AM, in article 4a7c4390@news.x-privat.org, "T h e M u n tD
>> r e g g e r" <themuntdregger@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> (-:arl wrote:
>>>> On Aug 2, 8:25 am, slunky <slu...@cryptobug.com> wrote:
>>>>> _/ (-:arl <carrrr...@gmail.com> wrote \_
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 2, 12:32?am, the_dawggie <the_dawg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Some serious mental fuck from ASD who is stalking me. Seriously
>>>>>>> getting beyond
>>>>>>> a joke and I'm considering reporting to police who can do a
>>>>>>> criminal check on.
>>>>>> Do it dude.
>>>>>> Get this shit's to stop. It happens all the time here, a few people
>>>>>> accusing guys of all kinna shit. And If the usual accuser's are not
>>>>>> posting shit like this-- they're in with the accuser, urging him on.
>>>>>> Maybe that'll make 'em an accessory or someth'n.?
>>>>> Use google groups advanced search and look for posts by dawgie in
>>>>> alt.support.depression to see his trolling. Specifically, search for
>>>>> the
>>>>> term "masturbation" "dogsex" "cyberhivesex"
>>>>> 
>>>>> SexwithDogshttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.depression/browse_th
>>>>> re
>>>>> ad/t...http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.depression/browse_thread
>>>>> /t
>>>>> 
...http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.depression/browse_thread/t..>>>>>
.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sexinvolving
>>>>> childrenhttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.depression/browse_threa
>>>>> d/
>>>>> t...http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.depression/browse_thread/t.
>>>>> ..
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.depression/browse_thread/t...ht
>>>>> tp
>>>>> ://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.depression/browse_thread/t...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Masturbation (search
>>>>> result)http://groups.google.com/groups/search?lr=&safe=off&num=10&q=mastur
>>>>> ba
>>>>> ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also note that dawgie is full of shit and has told so many lies that
>>>>> his
>>>>> nose is longer than pinnochio's which is proven by his countless
>>>>> contradictions. Such as his fake conditions:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) Anorexia Nervosa
>>>>> 2) "Schitzofrenia"
>>>>> 3) Sociopathy
>>>>> 4) Narcissistic Personality Disorder
>>>>> 5) Depression
>>>>> 
>>>>> All of which have been "diagnosed" by himself using short lists of
>>>>> criteria with no formal training while refusing to seek any help for
>>>>> these self-diagnosed "conditions" leading any sane person to believe
>>>>> that if these existed in him, they don't afflict him in any
>>>>> meaningful
>>>>> way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh yeah, and he's a total shithead to boot!
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> -slunky
>>>> "Sex with dogs"
>>>> He fucked a dog.
>>>> 
>>>> "Sex with children"
>>>> First link- No mention or reference to sex with children *anywhere*
>>>> 
>>>> 2nd link- Again you've lost me.
>>>> There is ZERO reference to sex with childeren.... *again!* slunky. Let
>>>> alone dawgg having sex with them.
>>>> 
>>>> 3rd link- One passing reference-
>>>> Two 9yr-olds having consensual sex with each other. One was the
>>>> 9yr_old dawgg
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 4th link-- *Finally* there's something to do about sex with
>>>> children.
>>>> 2 9yr_old's having "sex" with each other.
>>>> Waddaa ya saying here slunky? You believe there are 9yr_old pedo's?
>>>> 
>>>> Another thing.-- Which 9yr_old is the pedo?
>>>> Both are having sex with a 9yr_old.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Masturbation-  Your link lead to a google search of dawgg's
>>>> masturbation post's. Picking one at random-
>>>> The only mention of masturbation is the subject line= "I want to
>>>> Masturbate" And David wrote it.
>>>> 
>>>> I quit reading after that.
>>>> 
>>>> You just plain don't like this guy. One single link, out of all you
>>>> published, was valid. "Sex with dogs"
>>>> 
>>>> All of the rest were complete bullshit. You could not made a case for
>>>> pedophilia no matter how much it was stretched. Not even close.
>>>> Then there's the masturbation link. WTF do you think you're doing!?
>>>> Masturbation is never mentioned at all, *anywhere*, in the thread.
>>>> Except the subject line. And David wrote that.
>>>> 
>>>> It's looks to me, like you got some kinna beef with this guy, that has
>>>> *nothing* to do with pedophilia. You listed them yourself.
>>>> ======================
>>>> 
>>>> Also note that dawgie is full of shit and has told so many lies that
>>>> his
>>>> nose is longer than pinnochio's which is proven by his countless
>>>> contradictions. Such as his fake conditions:
>>>> 
>>>> 1) Anorexia Nervosa
>>>> 2) "Schitzofrenia"
>>>> 3) Sociopathy
>>>> 4) Narcissistic Personality Disorder
>>>> 5) Depression
>>>> 
>>>> All of which have been "diagnosed" by himself using short lists of
>>>> criteria with no formal training while refusing to seek any help for
>>>> these self-diagnosed "conditions" leading any sane person to believe
>>>> that if these existed in him, they don't afflict him in any meaningful
>>>> way.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh yeah, and he's a total shithead to boot!
>>>> =============================================
>>>> 
>>>> That's what this is really about. And you try sticking him with the
>>>> pedo label.
>>>> 
>>>> You're a pure piece of shit, low life slunky. One thing more i'd like
>>>> to remark on--
>>>> 
>>>> ============
>>>> __"Also note that dawgie is full of shit and has told so many lies
>>>> that his nose is longer than pinnochio's which is proven by his
>>>> countless contradictions. Such as his fake conditions"
>>>> ===========
>>>> 
>>>> The only thing here, is you, saying he is.
>>>> __You've proven yourself to be a liar right here.
>>>> 
>>>> (gee. i wonder if i should ever believe slunky again?)
>>> I've been watching Slunky's campaign against The_Dawgie and
>>> been feeling increasingly uncomfortable about the motivation
>>> behind it.
>>> 
>>> If this poster is, (as slunky is clearly alleging), a pedophile
>>> who is using cover of ASD/ASH to gain sympathy for himself, then
>>> Slunky is quite right to alert others to whats going on and to
>>> hassle the guy out of here.
>>> 
>>> However, if its simply the case of bending the facts to fit some
>>> personal argument that slunky has with him, then its a particularly
>>> cruel and vindictive way to go about it. Pedophilia rightfully
>>> carries considerable stigma and making unfounded or unsubstantiated
>>> allegations has the capacity to cause serious damage and harm.
>>> 
>>> Slunky either needs to substantiate his allegations or reatract and
>>> apologise. If he does neither, then the poster is welcome to my
>>> assistance in pursuing legal recourse.
>> 
>> i've been reading dawggie's posts since he showed up on ASD, and can confirm
>> independently of the google archive that carl's assessment is accurate.
>> there's no substantiation for calling him a pedophile.
> 
> Dawggie seems to think that "consensual"
> sex between a 40 year old and a 16 year old
> is perfectly fine, whereas sex with minors is not ok.
> 
> 
> Some other people, including me, think that
> a 40 year old who has sex with a 16 year old
> is a pervert.

what you and i think of it is unimportant. one thing it objectively isn't is
pedophilia, and one thing it objectively is is legal in both their
countries, where 16-year-olds and 40-year-olds can have consentual sex
without the quotation marks.

> Slunky is an abuse survivor,

i'm a childhood sexual abuse survivor too; this evokes no sympathy in me.
sure, we have triggers. we're all responsible for recognizing and managing
our triggers. we don't get to go berserk on people who've broken no law like
the guy in the "niagara falls" skit.

> and the dawggie
> and slunky had disagreements
> about this topic in the past, which
> over several months then escalated.

it's been a one-sided escalation. dawggie merely held his own in quietly
continuing to assert that there was nothing wrong with what he and his
younger friend did in the face of escalating name-calling and hounding. his
part consisted of refusing to be silenced and driven away by two people
(slunky and %) who have made it their special project to defame, silence and
drive him away, nearly two years after they were the only ones who were
still talking about it and all dawggie was trying to do was talk peacefully
about cars in aus.cars and his depression-related issues in asd.

there's no doubt in my mind that this has been a case of unilateral
harassment and deliberate character assassination, and if called as a
witness i'll say so under oath.