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Article #121Re: Message to everyone
From: Borked Pseudo Mailed
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:19
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:19
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Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote: >Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote: > >>>First, you can't forge a timestamp on a remailer message because it's >>>done by the last remailer and you have zero control over it. >> >> What if only one remailer were used? (without chaining) > >Wouldn't matter a bit. That single remailer strips headers and replaces >them with its own. This is what remailers do. Their design and function. I suppose if the operator of a remailer were complicit in some sort of scheme, one could argue that they *could* alter this header. However, given the bomb you're about to drop: >>>Second and even more damning, anyone can look at the sequence of posts >>>made before and after the two message in question and see that they >>>absolutely WERE made in the order they appeared. It's not possible for > >> Based on his own arguments on the matter, which seem to harm him more >> than prove his case, I'd have to agree that it looks like he did it. >> However I don't really have inclination to go and look up every post >> from that day. > >Unnecessary. Look up a single post made after and before each of them >which have those two posts in context (a reply, or the post to which both >of them replied). Damn. I'm not speechless often, but I say this with complete admiration. You are *good*. I just took a look at this thread in question, which happened back on March 7-8. I started with the forgery, and saw two replies to it which were threaded, and which quoted the forger's "DASVID MOORE" phrase. I focused on "Susan Cohen"....she was posting from Verizon and was even in the same time zone as KRP. Her headers indicate the time of her post: X-Trace: trnddc01 1110274129 138.88.70.225 (Tue, 08 Mar 2005 04:28:49 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 04:28:49 EST And then KRP posted the same message a few hours later: X-Trace: trnddc06 1110286681 63.21.1.176 (Tue, 08 Mar 2005 07:58:01 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 07:58:01 EST He was alleging that someone came along after this, forged a message and forged the time stamp on a remailer. Given these other replies though, you are correct, and there is *no way* this happened. I feared that KRP was lying, as his explanations just weren't adding up. This proves it. My guess is that he does this kind of stuff often, to get people fired up at each other. Makes it very likely that he started these nasty threads here in ASG for the same reason. Sorry folks for dragging us off-topic, but I did believe it necessary to approach this stuff with an open mind, "innocent until proven guilty". I'd say sufficient proof exists to show that KRP is guilty though. KRP, if you're still around, anything to say in your defense on this? I crossed this into alt.atheism as well, as people there may be undergoing similar problems with the same person. Rich
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