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  "Martin Eden" <Martin-Edenn@home.com> wrote:
> I saw it last night; and, I liked it better than I expected.  If anyone
gets
> a chance to see it, then do so;  I would definitely recommend it
because
> this movie gets to the heart of the CI debate.  If you're not familiar
with
> the debate and issues, then this movie is for you.
>
> I do not perceive the parents that decided not to get their
daughter
> implanted as "abusive."   However, I do perceive the father as a
> close-minded individual.  He fears CIs.  He fears them in two
ways: 1.) They
> are not effective and he thinks they are too dangerous, and 2.)
He feels it
> (along with his deaf friends) as a vile threat to the deaf
> community--meaning his daughter will reject him and his wife
because of who
> they are.
>
> What this man does not see is that more and more people are
getting CI.  As
> this happens, there is going to be more pressure towards
national
> organizations to accept CI.  (Blast the NAD!)  As the future
comes, I
> believe CIs will not be that big of an issue as it is now.  We are in
the
> midst of a revolution.  And no! I don't think Sign should become
obsolete.
>
> Cake...I think you mentioned something about the Grandma
being overbearing.
> I certainly can understand this.  But she was right when she says
her son
> had a hard time growing up.  She has not forgotten this; and, as
a result,
> she has a lot of feelings towards her granddaughter.  I do not
think she is
> trying to alienate the child.  She just wants her to have the best of
both
> worlds.
>
> Martin Eden
>
>


Hey Martin-


I'm happy to see that you finally got a chance to see "Sound and
Fury"!


Regarding the grandmother, I don't know who called her
"overbearing" but I don't think it was me. I thought she was chock
full of common sense and had Heather's best interests in mind
while still being able to take a sympathetic viewpoint when dealing
with her parents and other deaf family members. I mean, if you
watch the interactions between Heather and her grandmother, it's
pretty apparent that Heather gets a kick out of trying to speak and
learn new words. It's also pretty apparent that the grandmother is
really listening to Heather and has a good sense of what the kid
wants and how motivated she is.


On the basis of the film itself, I think it's too bad that the father's
fears about the CI ended up taking precedence over Heather's
basic desire to communicate.


On the other hand, I'm finding it a bit weird to judge parental
decisions on the basis of an 80-minute documentary (which hasn't
stopped me from doing it anyway).


-Cake


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"Martin Eden" <Martin-Edenn@home.com> wrote in message
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> I saw it last night; and, I liked it better than I expected.  If anyone
gets
> a chance to see it, then do so;  I would definitely recommend it because
> this movie gets to the heart of the CI debate.  If you're not familiar
with
> the debate and issues, then this movie is for you.
>
> I do not perceive the parents that decided not to get their daughter
> implanted as "abusive."   However, I do perceive the father as a
> close-minded individual.

   Visiting NYC and deaf church, I mentioned Union League for the Deaf
   Club to the deaf audience in small room. They never hear about this old
   deaf club except one elder deaf person to know about this historical
club.
   My feeling was sad to observe as they might never see any deaf model
   role in the past. Also we face to teach them for deaf history. It was
   backward for us this moment last September.

 He fears CIs.  He fears them in two ways: 1.) They
> are not effective and he thinks they are too dangerous, and 2.) He feels
it
> (along with his deaf friends) as a vile threat to the deaf
> community--meaning his daughter will reject him and his wife because of
who
> they are.

  Look at www.deafcarolina.com that many letters were there, but suddenly
  it was changed to www.deafpah.com (new web site). Wait for this new
  web site to have interesting comments among NCSD alumni, etc.
 NCSD alumna point out that any deaf student must be DEAF(period)
 in his letter.
>
> What this man does not see is that more and more people are getting CI.
As
> this happens, there is going to be more pressure towards national
> organizations to accept CI.  (Blast the NAD!)  As the future comes, I
> believe CIs will not be that big of an issue as it is now.  We are in the
> midst of a revolution.  And no! I don't think Sign should become obsolete.

    I missed the CI workshop session last July in VA, but I still not know
what is the
    status of workshop session, however NAD felt all parents need to have
ALL
    information before they can make any decision.  Also I am looking to
   watch the movice in our area, it must be similar to french movie that I
saw last time.
   In 1994 NAD conference had demo movie that I saw but I am disappointed
that the
   movie was not released to public yet. Also I heard debate at Gallaudet
University
   last year, "CI is not perfect for everyone" plus Ex oralist/ASL with new
CI said
   that guy loved the deaf culture in his entire life, too.  However I am
aware to gather
   more new information in the future every year ahead plus looking this
film in our
   area.

  Walking to pass the NAD workshop session in the hotel workshop room, I saw
the lady
  to stand and spoke out, " SEE I, SEE II, Cued Speech, ... are failure and
left to
  one method: ASL" So I cannot forgot that my deaf eyes captured that
comment.
  According to newsletter, many deaf students went to SWCID campus and
dropped
  SEE method and used ASL method at campus. It was repeated as 200 years ago
  in Spain, French, etc.
>
> Cake...I think you mentioned something about the Grandma being
overbearing.
> I certainly can understand this.  But she was right when she says her son
> had a hard time growing up.  She has not forgotten this; and, as a result,
> she has a lot of feelings towards her granddaughter.  I do not think she
is
> trying to alienate the child.  She just wants her to have the best of both
> worlds.
>
> Martin Eden
>
>