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Re: Avril Jenson - Her own story...

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From: Ted Rosenberg
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 00:00
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Well put Dave, sorry, but I am NOT angry, or deliberately derisive (and I CAN be
either or both from time to time).  Every now and then you run across a web site,
usually a scammer, but not always, which is just TOO stupid for words.  The
"Quintessence of the Loon" site COLLECTS links to them from all over the net.. I
considered that site a candidate for "Quintessence".  Obviously you don't.  I have
no interest in revisiting the site, but your defense indicates that there may be
more there than was obvious to me.

Dave Spicer wrote:

> (crossposted to all four groups although I only read
> bit.listserv.autism)
>
> On Wed, 05 Jul 2000 12:01:11 -0400, Ted Rosenberg
> <Tedrosenberg@iname.com> wrote:
>
> >Did you READ that piece of tripe, I thought I would split my sides laughing.  I
> >can't imagine anyone is stupid enough to actually BELIEVE any of it.
>
> The primary definition of "tripe" refers to it as a food.  It's not to
> everyone's taste - its secondary definition likely came about from the
> common practice of ridiculing that which the majority does not
> like/appreciate/understand - but it is nourishing nonetheless, and of
> real value to some.
>
> The site in question seems to describe a way of looking at things
> which works for its authors.  I am autistic, and much (but not all) of
> it seemed sensible to me, although I strongly disagree that Avril is
> somehow *the* spokesperson/interpreter for all autistic folks.  If she
> and I happen to say some of the same things, this does not mean that
> she speaks *for* me.  The concept of someone being the "one true
> messenger" has IMO caused untold suffering, and it just doesn't seem
> to me to work very well, so I don't subscribe to it.
>
> As a tool for gaining understanding or sharing one's thoughts/ideas,
> derision seems awfully weak to me.  I've learned that if I am angry
> there is always another emotion behind/underneath the anger, and that
> the situation won't be resolved until I deal with it.  Maybe the same
> holds true of derision - that unless what is behind the derision is
> brought out, all that results is useless posturing/namecalling.
> Ridiculing others doesn't seem very productive toward learning *or*
> teaching anything...
>
> - Dave http://webpages.charter.net/dspicer
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From: Ted Rosenberg <TedRosenberg@iname.com>
Subject: Re: Avril Jenson - Her own story...
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