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Article #5Re: Avril Jenson - Her own story...
From: Ted Rosenberg
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 00:00
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 00:00
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Well put Dave, sorry, but I am NOT angry, or deliberately derisive (and I CAN be either or both from time to time). Every now and then you run across a web site, usually a scammer, but not always, which is just TOO stupid for words. The "Quintessence of the Loon" site COLLECTS links to them from all over the net.. I considered that site a candidate for "Quintessence". Obviously you don't. I have no interest in revisiting the site, but your defense indicates that there may be more there than was obvious to me. Dave Spicer wrote: > (crossposted to all four groups although I only read > bit.listserv.autism) > > On Wed, 05 Jul 2000 12:01:11 -0400, Ted Rosenberg > <Tedrosenberg@iname.com> wrote: > > >Did you READ that piece of tripe, I thought I would split my sides laughing. I > >can't imagine anyone is stupid enough to actually BELIEVE any of it. > > The primary definition of "tripe" refers to it as a food. It's not to > everyone's taste - its secondary definition likely came about from the > common practice of ridiculing that which the majority does not > like/appreciate/understand - but it is nourishing nonetheless, and of > real value to some. > > The site in question seems to describe a way of looking at things > which works for its authors. I am autistic, and much (but not all) of > it seemed sensible to me, although I strongly disagree that Avril is > somehow *the* spokesperson/interpreter for all autistic folks. If she > and I happen to say some of the same things, this does not mean that > she speaks *for* me. The concept of someone being the "one true > messenger" has IMO caused untold suffering, and it just doesn't seem > to me to work very well, so I don't subscribe to it. > > As a tool for gaining understanding or sharing one's thoughts/ideas, > derision seems awfully weak to me. I've learned that if I am angry > there is always another emotion behind/underneath the anger, and that > the situation won't be resolved until I deal with it. Maybe the same > holds true of derision - that unless what is behind the derision is > brought out, all that results is useless posturing/namecalling. > Ridiculing others doesn't seem very productive toward learning *or* > teaching anything... > > - Dave http://webpages.charter.net/dspicer
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 112340,d4847211f9d8eb0c X-Google-Attributes: gid112340,public X-Google-Thread: fe7be,d4847211f9d8eb0c X-Google-Attributes: gidfe7be,public X-Google-Thread: 10f3f4,d4847211f9d8eb0c X-Google-Attributes: gid10f3f4,public X-Google-Thread: 1056bc,d4847211f9d8eb0c X-Google-Attributes: gid1056bc,public From: Ted Rosenberg <TedRosenberg@iname.com> Subject: Re: Avril Jenson - Her own story... Date: 2000/07/07 Message-ID: <396620D1.F9240A02@iname.com> X-Deja-AN: 643598937 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <8dmsvt$ot7$1@plutonium.btinternet.com> <8wt85.24250$fR2.219724@news1.rdc1.mi.home.com> <8jtte6$fsq$1@lure.pipex.net> <39635BC7.83A0DF4F@iname.com> <k8ubmskkpdtha68og1999mbng4b51mfjlk@4ax.com> To: Dave Spicer <dspicer@charter.net> X-Accept-Language: en X-Server-Date: 7 Jul 2000 18:24:45 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.support.learning-difficulties,alt.support.learning-disab,bit.listserv.autism,uk.people.disability