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Very simple:  As a Christian, I would be dead for refusal to convert to
Islam.


"Keith Skillicorn" <skillicorn@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> If Islam Ruled America
> By Abdullah Al Araby
> Jump to:   First: Liberty   Second: Democracy    Third: Equality
> Would Islam treat non-Muslims fairly   Could Islam someday rule
> America?
>
> Islam is more than a religion; It is a comprehensive way of life. The
> Quran (believed by Muslims to be God's word), and the Hadith
> (Mohammed's sayings as recorded by Al Bukhari), prescribe numerous
> regulations governing every aspect of the social, political,
> economical, as well as religious life. The belief that "Islam is a
> religion and a state" is an integral part of the Islamic religion.
>
> Let's examine what Islam would do if it ruled America. What would
> happen to the values and institutions that we hold dear?
>
>
> First: Liberty
> The United States was built on the Bill of Rights, established by the
> founding fathers who came here to escape religious oppression. The
> Constitution gives citizens the right to express themselves as they
> please, to criticize the president if they believe he is wrong, to
> worship in the way they want and to act in any way they see
> appropriate as long as they don't violate the rights of others.
>
> What would happen to this freedom in an Islamic state? Would the
> citizens be granted the right to choose the religion they want, or
> would they be forced into Islam according to the Quranic verse: "If
> any one desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted
> of him, and in the hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have
> lost." (Surah 3:85). How about the right of a Muslim to change his own
> religion? Would he be given this right or would he be punished
> according to the apostasy rule which states that such a person should
> be punished by death? Mohammed said "Whoever changes his religion,
> kill him." Al Bukhari Vol. 9:57
>
> Do Muslim activists want us to have the same rights granted to the
> citizens of an Islamic country such as Saudi Arabia, where women are
> not allowed to drive an automobile and no one can worship openly
> according to any religion other than Islam? Do they want us to be
> ruled by a ruler such as Khomeini, who issued an order to murder a
> writer, Salman Rushdie, just because he dared to criticize Islam ?
> Even in a moderate Islamic state such as Egypt, Christians have to
> obtain a presidential decree to be able to build a church. They face
> discrimination in all aspects of their lives, including education,
> employment and promotions.
>
> Second: Democracy
> Our present system in the USA gives the citizens the right to rule
> themselves, to write the laws that will govern their lives, to decide
> the amount of taxes to be collected from them and how it will be
> spent.
>
> One important principle in this great system is the separation of
> church and state. Islam, however, is built on an opposing concept, for
> "Islam is a religion and a state." According to Islam, the Quran is
> the principal source of legislation: "We have sent down to thee the
> book in truth, that you might judge men as guided by God." (Surah
> 4:105). If the Quran is the law, what are some of the rules and
> regulations that will be imposed? Here are just a few examples:
>
> Stealing:  punished by hand amputation (Surah 5:38)
> Adultery:  punished by public flogging (Surah 24:2)
> Drinking: punished by 40 or 80 lashes (Al Bukhari 8:770)
> Resisting Islam: punished by death, crucifixion or the cutting off of
> the hands and feet (Surah 5:33)
> Prisons in Muslim countries are known to be centers of torture rather
> than rehabilitation.
>
> Third: Equality
> Under our system in the United States, there should be no
> discrimination among citizens based on sex, color, religion or race.
> Would Islam treat men and women equally when:
>
> It teaches that men are superior to women (Surah 2:228)
> It gives men double the share of the women in inheritance? (Surah
> 4:11)
> It gives the man double the value of a woman's witness in court?
> (Surah 2:282)
> Would Islam treat non-Muslims fairly when:
> The Quran calls on Muslims not to befriend Jews or Christians? (Surah
> 9:30)
> The Quran imposes "Jizya" (tribute tax) on Christians and Jews that
> will be collected only from them and not from Muslims? (Surah 9:29)
> Mohammed says that a Muslim may not be killed if he kills a non-
> Muslim. " No Muslim should be killed for killing a kafir (infidel or
> non- Muslim) ."Al Bukhari Vol. 9:50
> Could Islam someday rule America?
>
> Islam is the fastest growing religion in America. Today, the number of
> followers of Islam in the United States has reached 4 to 6 millions.
> It is a matter of time before Islam will become the religion of the
> majority. America, then will be labeled an " Islamic country ", ruled
> by the "Quran" and the "Hadith" or what Muslims call Sharia (The
> Islamic code of ethics).
>
> My fellow Americans
>
> The threat of Islam is real. More so than communism ever was, because
> with Islam, Muslim activists are willing to kill and to die for the
> cause of spreading their religion. This is called ""Jihad", a sacred
> duty for all Muslims to perform.
>
> GET THIS MESSAGE AROUND . STOP THE SPREAD OF THE ISLAMIC CULT BEFORE
> IT IS TOO LATE .
>
> MORE INFORMATION AT :- http://www.webspawner.com/users/ruth

skillicorn@ozemail.com.au (Keith Skillicorn) wrote in message news:<b5e9141e.0211031751.641f63fc@posting.google.com>...
> My fellow Americans 
> 
> The threat of Islam is real. More so than communism ever was


The father of Neo-Evangelicalism, Billy Graham, disagrees with you
concerning Islam.

As per:

In 1986 at one of his famous crusades, THE EVANGELIST BILLY GRAHAM
TOLD THE AUDIENCE THAT THEY SHOULD REGARD MUSLIMS NOT AS THE ENEMY BUT
AS FELLOW BELIEVERS, THAT THEY ALL WORSHIPED THE SAME GOD.  OVER A
WEEK HE REPEATED IT EIGHT TIMES, IN CASE ANYONE MISSED HIS POINT. 
...The elder Graham is remembered as the nation's preacher-statesman,
who never took sides, who HAD KIND WORDS FOR EVERY RELIGION, EVERY
PRESIDENT.  ...Mark DeMoss, a spokesman for Franklin Graham [said,]
"[What] his dad did [is] going to great lengths to avoid it
[controversy]..."  ...William Martin, the elder Graham's biographer
[wrote that] Billy Graham emerged as their [the evangelicals']
AMBASSADOR TO THE MAINSTREAM WORLD.  HE BEFRIENDED PRESIDENTS...AND
MADE IT RESPECTABLE TO CALL YOURSELF EVANGELICAL AGAIN.  ...BILLY
GRAHAM HAD SAID "JESUS" AT MANY OF THE EIGHT [PRESIDENTIAL]
INAUGURATIONS HE'D PRAYED AT, BUT NO ONE HAD OBJECTED.  (Hanna Rosin,
"Younger Graham Diverges from Father's Image: Ministry's Patriarch
Accepted Islam, but His Son Condemns the Religion," WASHINGTON POST,
02 September 2002, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24620-2002Sep1.html)


One with you (if) in Christ,

HP Opus
http://fellow-servants-of-christ.0catch.com

He's mistaken


"HP Opus" <hp_opus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> skillicorn@ozemail.com.au (Keith Skillicorn) wrote in message
news:<b5e9141e.0211031751.641f63fc@posting.google.com>...
> > My fellow Americans
> >
> > The threat of Islam is real. More so than communism ever was
>
>
> The father of Neo-Evangelicalism, Billy Graham, disagrees with you
> concerning Islam.
>
> As per:
>
> In 1986 at one of his famous crusades, THE EVANGELIST BILLY GRAHAM
> TOLD THE AUDIENCE THAT THEY SHOULD REGARD MUSLIMS NOT AS THE ENEMY BUT
> AS FELLOW BELIEVERS, THAT THEY ALL WORSHIPED THE SAME GOD.  OVER A
> WEEK HE REPEATED IT EIGHT TIMES, IN CASE ANYONE MISSED HIS POINT.
> ...The elder Graham is remembered as the nation's preacher-statesman,
> who never took sides, who HAD KIND WORDS FOR EVERY RELIGION, EVERY
> PRESIDENT.  ...Mark DeMoss, a spokesman for Franklin Graham [said,]
> "[What] his dad did [is] going to great lengths to avoid it
> [controversy]..."  ...William Martin, the elder Graham's biographer
> [wrote that] Billy Graham emerged as their [the evangelicals']
> AMBASSADOR TO THE MAINSTREAM WORLD.  HE BEFRIENDED PRESIDENTS...AND
> MADE IT RESPECTABLE TO CALL YOURSELF EVANGELICAL AGAIN.  ...BILLY
> GRAHAM HAD SAID "JESUS" AT MANY OF THE EIGHT [PRESIDENTIAL]
> INAUGURATIONS HE'D PRAYED AT, BUT NO ONE HAD OBJECTED.  (Hanna Rosin,
> "Younger Graham Diverges from Father's Image: Ministry's Patriarch
> Accepted Islam, but His Son Condemns the Religion," WASHINGTON POST,
> 02 September 2002,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24620-2002Sep1.html)
>
>
> One with you (if) in Christ,
>
> HP Opus
> http://fellow-servants-of-christ.0catch.com

"Joshua" <Joshua@Jericho.net> wrote in message news:<PVCx9.10742$m8.6189@tornadotest1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
> He's mistaken

"He" who?  Who's mistaken?  Keith Skillicorn or Billy Graham?

Speak up, please; we can't hear you, Joshua.  (Or, write up, please;
we can't read you, Joshua.)


One with you (if) in Christ,

HP Opus
http://fellow-servants-of-christ.0catch.com

"HP Opus" <hp_opus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Joshua" <Joshua@Jericho.net> wrote in message
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> > He's mistaken
>
> "He" who?  Who's mistaken?  Keith Skillicorn or Billy Graham?
>

Rev. Graham

"Joshua" <Joshua@Jericho.net> wrote in message news:<rRTx9.12619$m8.8888@tornadotest1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
> "HP Opus" <hp_opus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7d08d3ed.0211050910.50f3a029@posting.google.com...
> > "Joshua" <Joshua@Jericho.net> wrote in message
>  news:<PVCx9.10742$m8.6189@tornadotest1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
> > > He's mistaken
> >
> > "He" who?  Who's mistaken?  Keith Skillicorn or Billy Graham?
> >
> 
> Rev. Graham

Why, then, is Mr. Skillicorn on the move to correct Muslims -- who're
not even the Elect of the God of the only Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
-- while leaving alone so many "mistaken" (to say the least) Christian
leaders today with their tons of uncorrected and winked-at mistakes? 
Jesus instructs us to take care of His household first and foremost --
not the world's!


One with you (if) in Christ,

HP Opus
http://fellow-servants-of-christ.0catch.com