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In article <afkbi90307a@drn.newsguy.com>, nospam@mybox.org says...
> In article <MPG.17870385780939ef989e35@shawnews.vn.shawcable.net>, tnr says...
> >
> >In article <afj67i0s95@drn.newsguy.com>, nospam@mybox.org says...
> >>In article <MPG.1786811b914e8377989e2e@shawnews.vn.shawcable.net>, tnr says...
> >> >
> >> >In article <afikiu02ma5@drn.newsguy.com>, nospam@mybox.org says...
> >>>>In article <MPG.1785a097ae734f04989e2a@shawnews.vn.shawcable.net>, tnr says...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >In article <1103_1025243790@shawnews>, couchfulodogs*@hotmail.com 
> >> >> >says...
> >> >> >> On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 03:01:34 GMT, tnr <tnr@nospam.org> wrote:
> >> >> >> > In article <1103_1025223039@shawnews>, couchfulodogs*@hotmail.com 
> >> >> >> > says...
> >> >>>>> > During world war two some hemp farmers were not drafted as they were
> >> >>needed
> >> >> >>for rope production, war runs on
> >> >> >> > > rope.
> >> >> >> > > 
> >> >> >> > > 
> >> >> >> > Gee the current wars seem to run on explosives and bullets.
> >>>>>>And to get the bombs and bullets anywhere they were moved around with rope.
> >>In
> >> >> >>WW11 there were not as many synthetics, and hemp rope was
> >> >> >> valuable.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> >I have no roblem believing that rope was important in 1940.
> >> >> 
> >>>> Good.   It shouldn't be much of a stretch then, to believe that rope is still
> >>>>just about as important.  We have lots of synthetics now, oil-based for the
> >>most
> >>>> part, which can substitute for hemp (which is renewable,) as long as there's
> >> >> access to oil (which is *not* renewable)...
> >> >
> >> >Really? Not renewable? Hmmm I wonder where that olive oil I just bought 
> >> >came from... 
> >> 
> >> Sorry... I did mean petroleum, and I thought it self-evident.   I defy you to
> >>find me many millions of barrels of olive oil per day and thus show me that your
> >> statement above isn't simply idiocy for the sake of argument.
> >
> >Sorry, I had been counting on a bit of insight. Number of barrels is 
> >certainly not hard to increase to pretty much any level you want,
> 
> Really?   On whose land?  Under whose authority?  

Yes, the land of anyone who wants to do so and the usual, respectively.
  
> >however that's not relevant to the comment I made. I assumed that it was 
> >self-evident that volume has nothing to do with whether it is  renewable 
> >resource. As for the difference between vegetable oil and petroleum... 
> >how long do you think it will be before natural gas and petroleum can be 
> >produced from genetically modified plants? Not long I would say. 
> 
> Right.  Sorry, I forgot about that.   We'll have trees that grow lemon-drops and
> gold bullion, too.  Are you sure you haven't been smoking some of that old rope?

You should study some more science.
 
> > I'd be willing to bet it will be long before we run out of the original stuff.
> 
> Petroleum, you mean?   We will probably be forced to stop using it long before
Yes.

> we run out of it.  In fact, I'd be willing to bet we'll be forced to move human
> settlement away from most coastlines before we run out of it.

Ahhh you're a global warmer.
 
> What's your point, and what does it have to do with the prohibition on hemp?

My point? You're kidding right? Somebody mentioned that synthetics 
weren't a god substitute rope material because they required the use of 
petroleum, apparently this was a negative factor in the use of 
synthetics because petroleum was claimed to be non-renewable and now 
because of global warming. Hmmmm, that was you. I think my point was 
pretty clear: "petroleum is unlikely to be non-renewable in the long 
term".