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On Sun, 9 Aug 1998 21:40:26 +0100, "Andrew Curry" <andrewc@clara.net>
wrote:

He's Baaack!!!!!!!!

>I am constantly tired because I am unable to get enough sleep. I do not have
>the time to get more sleep, however, is there any way of making the sleep I
>do get more efficient/effective. Let me give you an example.....
>
>ALcohol, although it can make you tired, disturbs your sleep. Therefore,
>sleep is less effective when you are drunk. Therefore, drink sober, there is
>one way to make your sleep more effective/relaxing.
>Are there any others?
>
>Andrew Curry
>andrewc@clara.net
>

Mike Dunn wrote:
> Stay away from caffiene for 6 hours before you go to bed.
> 
> Eating turkey and drinking milk are ways of natually getting Melatonin,
> a chemical that is released to help you sleep.  It is also available in
> pill form.  It is a recommended method of helping people go to sleep or
> to stay asleep (no waking up in the middle of the night), but I don't
> know if it improves effiency.
> 
> Reducing stress often helps people sleep.
> 
> Meditation is supposed to reduce stress and I have heard that people who
> meditate daily need less sleep at night.
> 
> Anyone else have any suggestions?

I've dabbled with Melatonin and I find that it certainly does trigger
the 'you are feeling very sleepy' thing. But I would really like
something that helps me sleep LONGER rather than just going to sleep.
Except for the small quantities in chocolate, I don't consume caffeine.
I've been on holiday for four weeks now and I'm still not sleeping very
long so I don't think stress enters into it. Now health and proper
eating habits may have something to do with it as I don't eat very
healthily but I'm no dietician so I have no idea what to do there if
that's an avenue I should go down. Meditation...hmmm.

-MarkT

Mark Tener wrote:
> ... Meditation...hmmm.
 
 ... Ommm might work better.  If you're going to try
 meditation, watch _when_ you meditate.  Some forms
 lead naturally into a period of activity, like
 caffeine does.  Good default times are before
 breakfast and supper.

Mark Tener wrote:
> 
> I've dabbled with Melatonin and I find that it certainly does trigger
> the 'you are feeling very sleepy' thing. But I would really like
> something that helps me sleep LONGER rather than just going to sleep.

I've dabbled with it as well.  Try looking for "time released" melatonin
that are supposed to release the dose over a period of 6 hours.  My
mother uses them, and she says it keeps her from waking up in the middle
of the night.

> Except for the small quantities in chocolate, I don't consume > caffeine.
> I've been on holiday for four weeks now and I'm still not sleeping
> very long so I don't think stress enters into it.

Your caffiene intake sounds good.  I know that it affects different
people different amounts.  Myself, I can drink coffee and go to bed an
hour later without to much problems.


> Now health and proper
> eating habits may have something to do with it as I don't eat very
> healthily but I'm no dietician so I have no idea what to do there if
> that's an avenue I should go down.

I'm not sure about eating in regards to sleeping.  Except for not eating
things that'll keep you up with gas, or eating things with natural
melatonin, I'm not sure.  Warm milk and things like camomile tea (sp?)
are supposed to help you fall asleep.

> Meditation...hmmm.

I know a few people who meditate and they say it helps.  It's kind-of
like a waking deam or concious sleep.  Meditiation is supposed to clear
your mind and let your unconsious mind work things out while your
concious is on hold.  Kinda like...  sleep!

Actually, there are many kinds of meditation, try talking to friends
who've tried it, or look in the library for books with titles like
"meditation for beginners".

> -MarkT

Argh!  I know another person who goes by MarkT (Mark Terrabain), who I
haven't talked to in a while.  My first thought when I saw you posting
is "It can't be!".  :)

Andrew Curry wrote:
> 
> I am constantly tired because I am unable to get enough sleep. I do not have
> the time to get more sleep, however, is there any way of making the sleep I
> do get more efficient/effective. Let me give you an example.....
> 
> ALcohol, although it can make you tired, disturbs your sleep. Therefore,
> sleep is less effective when you are drunk. Therefore, drink sober, there is
> one way to make your sleep more effective/relaxing.
> Are there any others?

Stay away from caffiene for 6 hours before you go to bed.

Eating turkey and drinking milk are ways of natually getting Melatonin,
a chemical that is released to help you sleep.  It is also available in
pill form.  It is a recommended method of helping people go to sleep or
to stay asleep (no waking up in the middle of the night), but I don't
know if it improves effiency.

Reducing stress often helps people sleep.

Meditation is supposed to reduce stress and I have heard that people who
meditate daily need less sleep at night.


Anyone else have any suggestions?

turkey and milk as well as cheese contain tryptphan (sepc.,
L-Tryptophan) your brain makes melatonin