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More evidence of ISP fraud and abuse by crossdressing criminal/scam artist
drug addict Gary Scafe, aka Colleen, Rebecca, Bethany, Tily, Julie, Becka, etc. etc. etc.

From: "Rod Speed" <rodspeed@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: Re: Problems with COD
Date: 1999/06/26
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John van der Veur <jv@melbpc.org.au> wrote in message news:377437e2.4716219@news.melbpc.org.au...

> Over the past 2 months I have send a number of items, mainly books
> and software to people interstate who have requested they be sent COD.
 
> Before shipping I will ask for a contact phone number and try
> and verify that person I am shipping the goods to is genuine.

I do the same myself and just wont send something COD to
someone who I cant verify like that. You can sometimes find out
a surprising amount about someone with a bit of judicious use of Deja.

> However in the past month I have had 3 items returned unclaimed.

I've done quite a few and so far have only been dudded once.

> Last week after not having heard from the Post Office for
> some 2 weeks after having sent the goods I phoned the buyer
> only to be told he hadn't picked the goods up from the Post
> Office as he had changed his mind about buying it.

I got a complete pack of lies from Gary Scafe in Bris, an endless stream
of tall storys about it being the APO's fault, then when that could fly no
longer after I had contacted the APO direct, even more fanciful storys
about Scafe's circumstances and why he hadnt picked it up yet.

The APO is surprisingly easy to deal with, 13 number you can ring,
give them the details off your copy of the form that gets filled out
when you send the COD and they ring back with the details, usually
after they have run the destination PO themselves to check etc.

In the ultimate tho, if the buyer just makes and obscene gesture
in your general direction, all you can really do is get it returned,
for only a relatively small financial loss if its not that heavy, and
publicise the fact that a particular individual behaves like that
so that he doesnt get a chance to keep doing that to others.

> On another occasion when I called the
> "buyer" I was told he had "gone away"....
 
> I would be interested in hearing how many others get messed about
> from time to time by people asking for goods to be sent COD and
> what precautions they take to check the person who asks for the item.
 
> This may also serve as a warning to those who are selling.

Yeah, most dont realise the risk you take with COD till you get dudded.

Can happen to the buyer too, nothing to stop you sending a block of wood
instead of say a hard drive. The only thing the APO is obliged to do is make
sure they dont hand over the parcel until they get cash. If you want to take
action on fraud, you do need some details on the person who sent it.

> Anything sent COD that is unclaimed is not returned
> to the seller unless he/she pays all the charges.

True.  Can be a significant amount of money too if its heavy.

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