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Celeste says "CANCELS ARE FREE SPEECH TOO"

#338
From: Star Traveler
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:00
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Just to let you know what Celeste is saying and thinking see the
following. The first part is from Tim Rosmus, who put an end to this
cancel nonsense from Celeste. But, apparently Celeste thinks she's on some
kind of sabbatical. Perhaps she thinks she's returning soon.


In article <aldeberan-9807241936510001@alt.net>, aldeberan@alt.net (Star
Traveler) wrote:

> In article <6par2j$1mq$1@halcyon.com>, trosmus@halcyon.com (Tim  Rosmus)
wrote:
> 
> >   I became aware of this newsgroups problems this last last Wednesday.  
> > At that time I tried to work with the party in question to solve the 
> > problem.  Only after checking some of the other groups where the rest 
> > of the flame wars migrated, did I realize about the multiple group 
> > cancellations.
> > 
> >   Any cancelling by this party has now been completely stopped.  Also 
> > if the need arises we will simply remove the group from our servers.
> > While I have no way of recovering the lost articles, I've been told 
> > that they can still be found on Deja-NeWS.  The party in question has 
> > also agreed to take some "time off" away from this group to let tempers
> > settle.  Also pursuit of a truly moderated group may occur, but this is
> > up to the parties involved.
> > 
> > We at Northwest Nexus apologize for any inconvenience or headaches 
> > this may have caused (I know I have one).
> 
> 
> It's good news to hear that a wacko censor, Celeste (in alt.support.srs)
> has been put out of business. We'll have to keep working on free speech
> issues so that all the censors are put out of business and the speech is
> truly free on UseNet.




And Celeste answers me by saying --

In article <6pbkbg$sun$1@news-1.news.gte.net>, "Celeste"
<celestes.spamfree@usa.net> wrote:

> Sorry honey I stopped my cancelbot on my own.
> 
> It had served its purpose.
> 
> It was my demonstration against the flame war there.
> 
> It will probably bring the flame war there to an end soon.
> 
> Cancels can be free speech too.
> 
>  -  Like strikers blocking the scabs.
> 
>  -  It picketed against the alt.support.srs flames for a full 36 hours.
> 
>   - it let the ON TOPIC articles through.


It sounds like she was doing quite a "service" for the group.

And also it sounds like if she just stopped "on her own" -- then she can
start up just as easily on her own. I say, "Once a censor, always a
censor."




xxx                                                              xxx
xxx                          A message                           xxx
xxx                from the original, one & only                 xxx
xxx                    --> Star Traveler <--                     xxx
xxx                  <mailto:aldeberan@alt.net>                  xxx
xxx            -->>> <http://www.aldeberan.org> <<<--            xxx
xxx       UDP-ed for warning about a scam at Texas.Net ISP       xxx
xxx          Protest FOR free speech at austin.internet          xxx
xxx                                                              xxx

Does your news server allow forged cancels? That promotes censorship
on content. A UseNet Death Penalty was issued because of my warning
about a crooked ISP -- ** Texas.Net ** -- cheating the customers.
Complain in a post to austin.internet about the UDP and censorship!!
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From: aldeberan@alt.net (Star Traveler)
Subject: Celeste says "CANCELS ARE FREE SPEECH TOO"
Date: 1998/07/25
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