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Re: Celeste says "CANCELS ARE FREE SPEECH TOO"

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From: Star Traveler
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 00:00
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In article <6popk1$81@examiner.concentric.net>, Melissa9X@Xconcentric.net
(Melissa) wrote:

> In article <aldeberan-9807250250590001@alt.net>,
>    aldeberan@alt.net (Star Traveler) wrote:
> >Just to let you know what Celeste is saying and thinking see the
> >following. The first part is from Tim Rosmus, who put an end to this
> >cancel nonsense from Celeste. But, apparently Celeste thinks she's on 
> >some kind of sabbatical. Perhaps she thinks she's returning soon.

         [... snip ...]

> >And Celeste answers me by saying --
> >
> >In article <6pbkbg$sun$1@news-1.news.gte.net>, "Celeste"
> ><celestes.spamfree@usa.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry honey I stopped my cancelbot on my own.
> >> 
> >> It had served its purpose.
> >> 
> >> It was my demonstration against the flame war there.
> >> 
> >> It will probably bring the flame war there to an end soon.
> >> 
> >> Cancels can be free speech too.
> 
> Oh I love that Orwellian Doublespeak. Peace is war, hate is love, 
> infringing free speech is free speech... All would-be tyrants like to 
> claim "it's for your own good".

Yep, it's a beautiful ironic twist -- for people who see that.



> >
> >It sounds like she was doing quite a "service" for the group.
> 
> Right. Just like a flu virus thinks it's doing a service for the 
> victim.

Yeah. And if I had a doctor that said he was injecting that virus in me
because it was a "life form" -- I'd be getting rid of that doctor real
quick.



> >And also it sounds like if she just stopped "on her own" -- then she 
> >can start up just as easily on her own. I say, "Once a censor, always
> >a censor."
> 
> Once a tyrant always a tyrant.

Very true. I can see you've caught onto Celeste's shenanigans.



> - Melissa
> Moderate Centrist Libertarian, Member: NRA, SWARM, Mensa
> Personal web pages:http://www.concentric.net/~Melissa9/
> What is it exactly that Dan Rather, Roy Romer, and Bill Maher don't
> understand about the 2nd Amendment?!:
> http://www.concentric.net/~Melissa9/2nd.htm
> 
> That's my opinion. To email me, remove both spam proofing X's in my email
> address. If you have anything negative to say, please do it in the newsgroups
> and not in my private email box. Hostile or harassing email will probably be
> instantly deleted and may result in complaints to the party's ISP.
> 
> "If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its
> freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money
> that it values more, it will lose that too."  - W. Somerset Maugham,
> "Strictly Personal," 1941
> 
> "Liberty has never come from government. Liberty has always come from
> the subjects of government. The history of liberty is the history
> of resistance." - Woodrow Wilson


It's sounds like you should be helping with the free speech issue on
UseNet, too.





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xxx       UDP-ed for warning about a scam at Texas.Net ISP       xxx
xxx          Protest FOR free speech at austin.internet          xxx
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Does your news server allow forged cancels? That promotes censorship
on content. A UseNet Death Penalty was issued because of my warning
about a crooked ISP -- ** Texas.Net ** -- cheating the customers.
Complain in a post to austin.internet about the UDP and censorship!!
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From: aldeberan@alt.net (Star Traveler)
Subject: Re: Celeste says "CANCELS ARE FREE SPEECH TOO"
Date: 1998/07/30
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