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On Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:49:47 -0700, Albert Nurick wrote
(in message <6pqppv$ao4$1@news12.ispnews.com>):
> 
> Star Traveler wrote in message ... 
>> What's curious to me is how closely related to Chip Rosenthal (that ugly 
>> censor in Austin, Texas) you are. It's peculiar that you were 
>> tremendously offended at censorship here -- but not in your own backyard. 
> 
> 
> Celeste removed messages based on their content; Chips weeds out the most 
> extreme examples of network abuse.

The language is the same in all cases with all censors. They say the same 
thing. The point is that censors are simply censoring on the basis of what they 
don't believe should be free speech. The "Censor-CABAL" is the same no matter 
where you find it. Celeste just took the same principles of "Censor-All 
Rosenthal" and extended them to her position. There's not difference there. 
Chip Rosenthal, in Austin, Texas is the same kind of industry whore as anyone 
else who supports censorship in favor of any ISP who is crooked and covers up 
scamming of innocent consumers (such as what Texas.Net does to the consumer in 
that area).



> Also, from what I can tell, Celeste didn't act with the support of the 
> community of users of alt.support.srs.  Chip, OTOH, has the overwhelming 
> support of the Austin Usenet community.  He's stated repeatedly that he will 
> discontinue his advisories if he loses this support.

I've heard those lines before. You might as well make a bunch of flyers and 
keep them in reserver for evertime you have a controversy. Then you can plaster 
all of UseNet with that stock answer that has no meaning at all. The support is 
"manufactured" support, because the "censor" shoots all opposition and cancels 
all articles that say anything different. Then when all are "dead" he says, 
"See, there's no opposition; everyone supports me!" Yeah, sure.



> 
> I'm sure these distinctions don't matter to you.

Well, I'm sure that Saddam Hussein thinks there's a difference in whether he 
gasses Israelis, or Kurds or Iranians or Saudis. He probably rates them in the 
order of (1) Israelis, (2) Kurds, (3) Iranians, (4) Saudis. But, if you ask me, 
it doesn't make any difference -- gassing a bunch of people is still gassing a 
bunch of people.

So, to me whether it's Chip Rosenthal cancelling articles that expose Texas.Net 
for their scamming of consumers, or Celeste cancelling articles for stopping 
people who are opposed to her -- is really a minor difference to me. It's like 
asking me whether it's preferable to gas an Iranian instead of an Israeli.

 

>> I'm smelling something real fishy here. There might be something a bit 
>> more than meets the eye with this story. 
> 
> 
> You're paranoid, Star... you're sounding more like Boursey with every post.  
> Coincidence?

No coincidence in sounding like Boursey by favoring free speech and being 
against cancelling other people's free speech. In fact, I would say you'll find 
hundreds of thousands of people like that. And it will certainly be no 
coincidence at all.


> 
> -- Albert Nurick albert@data.net - ICQ #4403737 
> 

Ole Albert, still on the wrong side of freedom of speech and individual rights 
over "money-interests." The only thing I can say about Albert is that he's 
smart enough to know where he gets paid -- and he'll go with whatever the 
"money interests" say.






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Does your news server allow forged cancels? That promotes censorship
on content. A UseNet Death Penalty was issued because of my warning
about a crooked ISP -- ** Texas.Net ** -- cheating the customers.
Complain in a post to austin.internet about the UDP and censorship!!
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From: aldeberan@alt.net (Star Traveler)
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