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3 total messages Started by Alex Topic Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:20

#886

Author: Alex Topic
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:20

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  I was wondering about afew things. I noticed some theparty2 invitation
thingy. I think it was called bodil.exe. Oh well I noticed MELON looks
down upon KEFRENS? They even had a cute little picture that p*sses on
a anhk sign. Not only that they call them lame. Geesh what is going on?
What did Kefrens do to deserve this?
 
  I personal respect them to some extent. In the past, they sure did some
decent stuff. Way back in 89-90 they did good. I saw that Guardian Dragon 2
demo, and thought it was decent. However like alot of these demos they will
not work on my friends Amiga 2000, who has no memory at $c00000.
 
 I'm not sure, but I think alot of those europeans use ASM1 or MSEKA. I
strongly suggest not using it. Devpac 2 is good enough for Mc68000 stuff. 
 
  Is it true some of these demos do not work, cause they SECTION off there
code to fixed memory locations? Geez thats weird. Even in Seka they have
load (certain memory location) and I seen alot of source use 'ORG'. If I
know better when coding on the Amiga stick away from that. 
 
  The point is all demos should work atleast on an A600..1meg CHIP and
wb2.04!
It sure upsets me to hear so many duds lately from party2. Oh well just
thought to add afew words. ttul!
  
 -Alex
 
 ps: New demo standard?   1 meg chip, 512k fast  'PAL' or 'NTSC-overscan'
                         gfx & sfx      code
 
 

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Re: Curious..hmmm

#887

Author: Kimble
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:37

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Alex_Topic@tvbbs.wimsey.bc.ca (Alex Topic) wrote:

>   The point is all demos should work atleast on an A600..1meg CHIP and
> wb2.04!
> It sure upsets me to hear so many duds lately from party2. Oh well just
> thought to add afew words. ttul!

Oops, you sure meant they should work  with any size of CHIP and FAST
memory and on any OS version?

Also, these demo coders shouldn't release any stuff outside their own
group unless it is carefully tested  on newer machines (A3000, A1200,
A4000) also.  Who wants to waste  a 1.5 megabyte download at 2400 bps
maybe just because some loonie hasn't tested anything?

(06:34) nic.funet.fi:pub/amiga/demos> rm -f `find . -compatibility poor`

>  -Alex

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Re: Curious..hmmm

#889

Author: L Lundman
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 11:38

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In article <Alex_Topic.05ff@tvbbs.wimsey.bc.ca> Alex_Topic@tvbbs.wimsey.bc.ca (Alex Topic) writes:

>     I personal respect them to some extent. In the past, they sure did some
>   decent stuff. Way back in 89-90 they did good. I saw that Guardian Dragon 2
>   demo, and thought it was decent. However like alot of these demos they will
>   not work on my friends Amiga 2000, who has no memory at $c00000.

Yes, but back in '90 the 'real' Kefrens broke up, and I believe almost
no-one of the original crew helped or indeed are in, the New Kefrens.
IMHO, the new kefrens aren't even close to that of the real kefrens.

>    I'm not sure, but I think alot of those europeans use ASM1 or MSEKA. I
>   strongly suggest not using it. Devpac 2 is good enough for Mc68000 stuff. 
Yep, Seka, Master Seka and later Asmone (which was written by a former kefrens
member Promax.) Here, again, IMHO devpac2 is no good for the demo's/intro's
most people write. However Seka today is not a very good assembler but Asmone
is.

>     Is it true some of these demos do not work, cause they SECTION off there
>   code to fixed memory locations? Geez thats weird. Even in Seka they have
>   load (certain memory location) and I seen alot of source use 'ORG'. If I
>   know better when coding on the Amiga stick away from that. 

Yep. I have a feeling that might have stuck from the C64 days where almost
all machine where the same and things appeared at the same address everytime.
Coding relocatable code is an art, and should be practised more often! :)

>    ps: New demo standard?   1 meg chip, 512k fast  'PAL' or 'NTSC-overscan'
Why PAL, most demo coders are PAL coders? No?

Lundy

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