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Article #3Amiga OS3.5
From: R.P.Haviland
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 01:19
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 01:19
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C01523.8734D880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Amiga OS3.5 My Amiga 3000 has 8 MB of memory, at 00000000-001FFFFF for chip and = 0780000-07FFFFFF for exxpansion. It includes a CDROM, a ZIP drive, 2 = floppies and 3 hard drives, one for linux. According to SysInfo, OS35 loads all Libraries but kickstart and = expansion into upper memory, together with all Drivers, Resources, Ports = and Tasks. This assignment does not change when NOFast Mem is invoked, = according to SysInfo, and confirmed by my own =93NodeExplore=94. It = appears that NoFastMem set the available amount of fast memory to zero, = forcing added programs into chip memory, but leaving libraries, etc = unchanged. As a result, it seems that some programs which were OK under OS2.0 will = not work correctly. The prime example of this is AmigaBASIC. MicroSoft in their great wisdom = ignored the =93telephone book=94 instructions not to use the upper 8 = bits of address space, which were reserved for future expansion. = Instead, they stuck a set of flags in these, limiting addresses. This = was OK in the early machines, but limits memory expansion. Also, with = OS3.5 a new factor shows, in that some BASIC instruction keywords no = longer work. One such is LIBRARY, originally used to access the Amiga ML = routines, and its associated keywords such as CALL. Others have shown = up, but I havn=92t tried to track down the problem involved. Other programs also act up. For example, the Analyze! spreadsheet locks = unless NoFastMem is used. Strictly, this didn=92t happen with 3.5 until = the new routines of BoingBall1 were installed, so this is a recent = problem. However, Analyze! cannot print to PRT:. It does print properly = to disk, so this must also be a OS3.5 problem. EXCELLENCE! also has = print problems, plus a strange screen jitter which showed up after = BoingBall. The program is not frozen, though. And WordPerfect 4.1 = sometimes shows up with a screen full of dashes. It seems that there is work to be done to get compatability between = OS2.0+ and OS3.5. Have any of you Amigians found these problems, and especially, have you = developed fixes? ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C01523.8734D880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Subject: Amiga OS3.5</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>My Amiga 3000 has 8 MB of memory, at = 00000000-001FFFFF for chip and 0780000-07FFFFFF for exxpansion. It = includes a=20 CDROM, a ZIP drive, 2 floppies and 3 hard drives, one for = linux.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>According to SysInfo, OS35 loads all = Libraries=20 but kickstart and expansion into upper memory, together with all = Drivers,=20 Resources, Ports and Tasks. This assignment does not change when NOFast = Mem is=20 invoked, according to SysInfo, and confirmed by my own=20 “NodeExplore”. It appears that NoFastMem set the available = amount of=20 fast memory to zero, forcing added programs into chip memory, but = leaving=20 libraries, etc unchanged.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>As a result, it seems that some = programs which=20 were OK under OS2.0 will not work correctly.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The prime example of this is = AmigaBASIC.=20 MicroSoft in their great wisdom ignored the “telephone book” = instructions not to use the upper 8 bits of address space, which were = reserved=20 for future expansion. Instead, they stuck a set of flags in these, = limiting=20 addresses. This was OK in the early machines, but limits memory = expansion. Also,=20 with OS3.5 a new factor shows, in that some BASIC instruction keywords = no longer=20 work. One such is LIBRARY, originally used to access the Amiga ML = routines, and=20 its associated keywords such as CALL. Others have shown up, but I = havn’t=20 tried to track down the problem involved.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Other programs also act up. For = example, =20 the Analyze! spreadsheet locks unless NoFastMem is used. Strictly, this=20 didn’t happen with 3.5 until the new routines of BoingBall1 were=20 installed, so this is a recent problem. However, Analyze! cannot print = to PRT:.=20 It does print properly to disk, so this must also be a OS3.5 problem.=20 EXCELLENCE! also has print problems, plus a strange screen jitter which = showed=20 up after BoingBall. The program is not frozen, though. And WordPerfect = 4.1=20 sometimes shows up with a screen full of dashes.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>It seems that there is work to be = done to get=20 compatability between OS2.0+ and OS3.5.<BR>Have any of you Amigians = found these=20 problems, and especially, have you developed fixes?<BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 = size=3D2><BR></FONT> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C01523.8734D880--
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