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Re: 8-bit on mail (was: Re: Open Letter To Amigan's! - message1.wps (1/1))

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From: Richard Kaulfuss
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:00
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Paul Copsey (paul@white-star.com) wrote:
: On 16 Dec 1996 14:18:55, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen <rask@kampsax.dtu.dk>
: > wrote:
: > So, they are getting what they deserve for running obsolete software. Fine
: > with me, really.
: 
: Ahh, I'm alright Jack, fsck the rest of you. Very public spirited of
: you.
: 
: Very few internet users control the path their mail or news takes, how
: do they avoid running obselete software? They can't, because it may
: not be them running it.
: 
: > Fortunately, there is ESMTP, which allows mail gateways to announce 8-bit
: > capability (among other things), and fortunately, most mail gateways are
: > ESMTP capable.
: 
: Most, not all. Actually I doubt ESMTP is as wide spread as you
: suggest, Demon is the biggest UK ISP, and have only just implemented
: ESMTP
: 
: > Does anybody know of an actual problem with 8-bit letters/postings not
: > reaching the destination intact?
: 
: Yes.

   Yes - as recently as this week. I replied to a ng posting containing some
   Spanish text; my newsreader (TIN) displayed it OK, and my editor (CED)
   processed it OK. But when I downloaded my reply, all the accented
   characters were missing - they had obviously been ignored or stripped out
   somewhere in Demon's network. (According to the Path: header, "my" copy 
   hadn't been anywhere else. The reply I got from the original poster was
   also corrupt, so that's how it went out to the rest of the world.

   Test:  Aa  Cc  Ee  Ii  Oo  Uu  Ss  Nn 
          (A selection of alternating pairs of 7 and 8 bit characters)

-- 
   Dick

   (Just had a thought - maybe it's Mailkick that's doing it)
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From: Richard Kaulfuss <dkaulf@boehme.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: 8-bit on mail (was: Re: Open Letter To Amigan's! - message1.wps (1/1))
Date: 1996/12/19
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