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Article #316Re: Any Mac Anti-spam software?
From: Russell Leach {78830}
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 00:00
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 00:00
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In article <Pine.LNX.3.91.980105160925.26948G-100000@sake.bais.com>, Rich Cook <rcook@sake.bais.com> writes:
|>On 5 Jan 1998, Russell Leach {78830} wrote:
|>
|>>
|>> In article <rcook-3112971856320001@ppp06.bais.com>, rcook@bais.com (Rich Cook) writes:
|>> |>
|>> |>I just wanted to second this and even go one stop further. I would not be
|>> |>in favor of legislation to ban spam on the net. We have to respect the
|>> |>spammer's right to free speech, even if it's repugnant or uninvited. The
|>> |>delete key is really not *that* hard to press, after all.... ;-)
|>>
|>> And what does the word "uninvited" mean in your language?
|>
|>"uninvited," means "not invited." :-|
|>
|>> The right to free speech extends only to the limits of the speaker's forum.
|>
|>This seems like a circular and peculiarly noninformative statement. A
|>forum is an area wherein a speaker may be heard, no?
And which I can bypass, at _my_ choosing.
I guess I was too subtle for you. By "the speaker's" forum, I meant, for
example, a web page, which I can choose to visit or not. _My_ resources,
my connect time, my ISP charges are under my control. When the spammer
blasts my mailbox full of crap, he/she is inflicting upon me, and the
resources for which I pay, the burden of handling that junk. My email address
is not an open invitation to "come on in, waste my time & money".
By your logic, a speaker would be simply exercising his/her freedom by
kidnapping an audience, tying them down, & forcing them to listen. That's
not freedom, it's assault.
|>
|>> Speech that invades my forum (in this case my email account) is not, and
|>> should not be, protected.
|>
|>Why, then, we should be suing junk mailer, including the U.S. senate for
|>sending us their insipid mass mailings. Sound nonsensical? It is, and
|>I'll tell you why. When you get an email address, you are by implication
|>assenting to receive all messages sent their, regardless of who sends
|>them. Your email account, like your postal address, is a publicly
|>addressible but only privately accessible portal to the world. If
|>someone sends you a message to your mailbox, it is protected by their
|>rights to free speech, whether you like it or not. Please forgive my
|>bluntness.
Utterly, totally wrong.
Your postal service example demonstrates a real ignorance of the economics of
the net. Don't you get an ISP bill each month? Do you pay a monthly bill
for your mailbox? Do you put a stamp on each email? Junk mailers pay for the
services of the Postal Service. Spammers are subsidized by each individual
who owns an account. Get it?
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From: rfl@localhost.enet.dec.com (Russell Leach {78830})
Subject: Re: Any Mac Anti-spam software?
Date: 1998/01/06
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