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In article <3543f4bd.0@duster.adelaide.on.net>,
goble@kigateway.eastend.com.au wrote:

> Hi All;
> 
> My father is going to buy an Mac SE30 5/40, can anyone tell me or give
> resources to information on it. Like which OS will run on it, how much
> ram can it have, what are the lastest software titles available, what
> external devices can be attached, ie CD-ROM, extra HHDs, Scanners,
> Quickcam...etc) and can it do filesharing or other network stuff like
> the internet?
> 
> If it comes with an OS, will it have a word processor,spreadsheet,
> etc?
> 
> Any help will be most grateful, please reply ASAP as he has just sent
> off the money for it.
>
The Mac SE/30 is an "all-in-one" 68030 based Mac model running at 16 MHz
processor speed. It will take up to 128 MB of internal memory with the
addition of a file titled "Mode32" which should be available via
Connectix's web site <http://www.connectix.com/>. The addition of this
file allows the SE/30 to recognize over 8 to 10 MB of memory by making the
system release being run think the SE/30 has what are called clean ROMs.
The SE/30 dates far enough back that it shipped with System 6.0.3 but
should be able to run up to System 7.6.1 if that's what y'all want. As for
software, with sufficient memory it should be able to run most, if not all
of the software released that will run on 680x0 systems. There are some
games and a few other applications on the market that require either a
68040 or PowerPC processor but since the SE/30 has a B&W monitor, games
may not be a top priority. The machine has an external SCSI bus on the
back, along with an internally mounted hard drive so you shouldn't have
much trouble connecting the SCSI peripherals you've mentioned. It, like
most Macs of that time frame has AppleTalk built-in so it can be networked
this way to other Macs but it doesn't have built-in Ethernet. The B&W
monitor might make Internet use a bit bland when accessing most web sites
but other than that factor y'all shouldn't have any problems using it on
the Internet.

..... Bart
-- 
Bart_MSN@msn.com
bart@gte.net
Computing Central - Macintosh Forum
<http://computingcentral.msn.com/forums/default.asp?macintosh>

In article <3543f4bd.0@duster.adelaide.on.net>,
goble@kigateway.eastend.com.au wrote:

#Hi All;
#
#My father is going to buy an Mac SE30 5/40, can anyone tell me or give
#resources to information on it. Like which OS will run on it, how much
#ram can it have, what are the lastest software titles available, what
#external devices can be attached, ie CD-ROM, extra HHDs, Scanners,
#Quickcam...etc) and can it do filesharing or other network stuff like
#the internet?
#
#If it comes with an OS, will it have a word processor,spreadsheet,
#etc?
#
#Any help will be most grateful, please reply ASAP as he has just sent
#off the money for it.
#Regards from :           David. E. Goble
#                         goble@kin.on.net
#                 http://www.eastend.com.au/~goble
#          American Beach Kangaroo Island South Australia

Hi David...

As the owner of an SE/30 (my backup and portable Mac) I suggest that you
should upgrade to at least 8MB RAM. Try System 7.1 first, it is fast and
takes litle RAM.

Upgrading RAM is a bit of a challenge, because after opening the case
(which is not difficult) you must detatch all of the snap-plugs which
connect the wiring to the logic-board. I find that an 8" locking hemostat
is a great aid in this project...as is a very thin-bladed screwdriver, to
unlock the snap-tabs on the plugs.

Install 1-MB SIMMs (30-pin, 80-ns) in all eight slots.

If you choose to install four, 4MB SIMMs you must install them in 'bank A',
which is the one closest to the edge of the board, lengthwise. Leave the
smaller SIMMs in bank B. There are severa websites (Lowend Mac) which
detail this to some degree of accuracy.

I suggest to download from Apple, the control panel called MODE32 v7.5,
which enables the system to use more than 8MB of RAM.

The SE/30 is a very fast machine. It came with an FPU. The BW screen is not
an impediment, once you use it for an hour; but it will only display BW,
not greyscale, without a special and rare add-on card.

Best regards,

==Gene Poole==

-- 
Primate hardwiring includes its own transcendance

In article <6i3siq$j20$3@nntp1.ba.best.com>,
Cathy Stevenson  <cats1921@NOSPAMbest.com> wrote:
>
>The SE/30 is a great little machine. You might want to check 
>out several web sites related to older Macs:
>
>http://www.uwm.edu/~thig/plus.html (Mac Antiques)
>http://www.eden.com/~arena/jagshouse/ (Jag's place)
>http://www.mtn.org/~jbipes/mac-sw.html Old Mac stuff)

But then again, you might NOT want to check out the last one of these 
three references, since it is DEAD, and has been for a long time!

I have difficulty trying to understand WHY Cathy is recommending this 
site, when it appears that she has not visited it and attempted to 
download ANY of the several pieces of software which it presumes to 
offer--but doesn't.

Any reason for this, Cathy?

>
>Cathy
>
>(To reply by email delete NOSPAM from address.)
>
>"there's a dance or two in the old dame yet"- mehitabel
>
>cats1921@bestDOTcom
>cstevenson, M.D.
>
>

In article <6i19pt$qdq$1@gte2.gte.net>, bart@gte.net (Bart Barton) wrote:

> In article <3543f4bd.0@duster.adelaide.on.net>,
> goble@kigateway.eastend.com.au wrote:
> 
> > Hi All;
> > 
> > My father is going to buy an Mac SE30 5/40, can anyone tell me or give
> > resources to information on it. Like which OS will run on it, how much
> > ram can it have, what are the lastest software titles available, what
> > external devices can be attached, ie CD-ROM, extra HHDs, Scanners,
> > Quickcam...etc) and can it do filesharing or other network stuff like
> > the internet?
> > 
> > If it comes with an OS, will it have a word processor,spreadsheet,
> > etc?
> > 
> > Any help will be most grateful, please reply ASAP as he has just sent
> > off the money for it.
> >
> The Mac SE/30 is an "all-in-one" 68030 based Mac model running at 16 MHz
> processor speed. It will take up to 128 MB of internal memory with the
> addition of a file titled "Mode32" which should be available via
> Connectix's web site <http://www.connectix.com/>. The addition of this
> file allows the SE/30 to recognize over 8 to 10 MB of memory by making the
> system release being run think the SE/30 has what are called clean ROMs.
> The SE/30 dates far enough back that it shipped with System 6.0.3 but
> should be able to run up to System 7.6.1 if that's what y'all want. As for

uh-uh, 7.5.5 is where the SE/30 (and others) max out. 7.6 and later require
32 bit addressing *natively*. Mode32 doesn't cut it.

> software, with sufficient memory it should be able to run most, if not all
> of the software released that will run on 680x0 systems. There are some
> games and a few other applications on the market that require either a
> 68040 or PowerPC processor but since the SE/30 has a B&W monitor, games

But you can get (only second hand these days) display cards that fit in the
Single Expansion slot...

> may not be a top priority. The machine has an external SCSI bus on the
> back, along with an internally mounted hard drive so you shouldn't have
> much trouble connecting the SCSI peripherals you've mentioned. It, like
> most Macs of that time frame has AppleTalk built-in so it can be networked
> this way to other Macs but it doesn't have built-in Ethernet. The B&W

You can get SCSI ethernet adapters, serial ethernet adapters or internal
ethernet cards that work with the SE/30...

> monitor might make Internet use a bit bland when accessing most web sites
> but other than that factor y'all shouldn't have any problems using it on
> the Internet.

Definitely no problem accessing the Net. You'll be limited to Netscrape
2.02 unless you upgrade beyond 8MB of RAM though.
(Ram Upgrades in an SE/30 happen 4 SIMMs at a time with 8 slots in all.
8MB=8x1MB SIMMs, next sensible step is 20MB 4x1MB + 4x4MB)

Have Fun
Martin
-- 
[misguided@tourism.tas.gov.au IS a real email address, but it's for spam]

Computer Systems Officer - Tourism Tasmania <ringnose 'at' tourism.tas.gov.au>
User/Mail/Network Support & Admin, Lotus Notes Dev & Admin.

Owner/Operator - Tesseract Computing <hypercube 'at' tesseract.com.au>
4D & Applescript => automated office & control systems
General Mac Consulting

My Opinions == Tesseract Computing's Opinions != Tourism Tasmania's Opinions

goble@kigateway.eastend.com.au (David. E. Goble) wrote:
>Hi All;
>
>My father is going to buy an Mac SE30 5/40, can anyone tell me or give
>resources to information on it. Like which OS will run on it, how much
>ram can it have, what are the lastest software titles available, what
>external devices can be attached, ie CD-ROM, extra HHDs, Scanners,
>Quickcam...etc) and can it do filesharing or other network stuff like
>the internet?
>
>If it comes with an OS, will it have a word processor,spreadsheet,
>etc?

The SE/30 is a great little machine. You might want to check 
out several web sites related to older Macs:

http://www.uwm.edu/~thig/plus.html (Mac Antiques)
http://www.eden.com/~arena/jagshouse/ (Jag's place)
http://www.mtn.org/~jbipes/mac-sw.html Old Mac stuff)

Cathy

(To reply by email delete NOSPAM from address.)

"there's a dance or two in the old dame yet"- mehitabel

cats1921@bestDOTcom
cstevenson, M.D.

David. E. Goble wrote:
> 
> Hi All;
> 
> My father is going to buy an Mac SE30 5/40, can anyone tell me or give

Is a previous job I had an SE30 8/80. As someone else said, it was
fairly fast, and I had access to the Internet via an appletalk-ethernet
gateway. I was also running Novell client on it.

Since it should have a superdrive, it should be capable of handling 
DOS format floppies as well. I used mine to download files from the
internet via mac, & DOS floppy to an Amiga !!!

Others have commented on the screen, mine had a video card (3rd party)
and colour monitor added, both screens were usable and I really liked
 it overall.
(Especially since I was learning to use a PC at the same time :-).

John Bennett
jbennett@camtech.net.au
Ph +61 8 8289 1195       
 or    0412 186 313

slvrmn@netcom.com (Albert Silverman) wrote:
>In article <6i3siq$j20$3@nntp1.ba.best.com>,
>Cathy Stevenson  <cats1921@NOSPAMbest.com> wrote:
>>
>>The SE/30 is a great little machine. You might want to check 
>>out several web sites related to older Macs:
>>
>>http://www.uwm.edu/~thig/plus.html (Mac Antiques)
>>http://www.eden.com/~arena/jagshouse/ (Jag's place)
>>http://www.mtn.org/~jbipes/mac-sw.html Old Mac stuff)
>
>But then again, you might NOT want to check out the last one of these 
>three references, since it is DEAD, and has been for a long time!
>
>I have difficulty trying to understand WHY Cathy is recommending this 
>site, when it appears that she has not visited it and attempted to 
>download ANY of the several pieces of software which it presumes to 
>offer--but doesn't.
>
>Any reason for this, Cathy?

Yes, there is, Mr. Smarty Pants. I just went to the site
10 seconds ago - I had no problem whatsoever.

Cathy

(To reply by email delete NOSPAM from address.)

"there's a dance or two in the old dame yet"- mehitabel

cats1921@bestDOTcom
cstevenson, M.D.

Albert Silverman <slvrmn@netcom.com> wrote:

> In article <6i3siq$j20$3@nntp1.ba.best.com>,
> Cathy Stevenson  <cats1921@NOSPAMbest.com> wrote:
 

> >http://www.mtn.org/~jbipes/mac-sw.html Old Mac stuff)
  
> But then again, you might NOT want to check out the last one of these
> three references, since it is DEAD, and has been for a long time!
 
> I have difficulty trying to understand WHY Cathy is recommending this
> site, when it appears that she has not visited it and attempted to 
> download ANY of the several pieces of software which it presumes to 
> offer--but doesn't.
  
> Any reason for this, Cathy?


And on what basis do you say "...DEAD, and *has been for a long time*!",
Bertie old chap?" It opens no problem and runs just fine. An apology to
Cathy is definitely in order. She unfailingly gives, and has given over
a very long time, excellent advice on a variety of subjects. My guess is
you tried once to access it and failed. How you extrapolated from that
that it had been down for a long time is what anyone else might "have
difficulty trying to understand" (to use your words!)

Denis

: Dr Denis Wright    Classics & History   Uni of New England : 
: Armidale NSW Australia 2351 Ph 0267 732479 Fax 0267 733520 :
:...... http://www1.tpgi.com.au/users/janette7/bodhi ....... :

In article <19980502074212137082@digimodem-1.une.edu.au>,
Denis Wright <deniswright@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>Albert Silverman <slvrmn@netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <6i3siq$j20$3@nntp1.ba.best.com>,
>> Cathy Stevenson  <cats1921@NOSPAMbest.com> wrote:
> 
>
>> >http://www.mtn.org/~jbipes/mac-sw.html Old Mac stuff)
>  
>> But then again, you might NOT want to check out the last one of these
>> three references, since it is DEAD, and has been for a long time!
> 
>> I have difficulty trying to understand WHY Cathy is recommending this
>> site, when it appears that she has not visited it and attempted to 
>> download ANY of the several pieces of software which it presumes to 
>> offer--but doesn't.
>  
>> Any reason for this, Cathy?
>
>
>And on what basis do you say "...DEAD, and *has been for a long time*!",
>Bertie old chap?" It opens no problem and runs just fine.

It is not a question of "opening and running just fine."

Have YOU been able to download any of the software listed at this site?

If so, which?

I have tried this several times over a period of several weeks and am 
unable to do it.

Furthermore, when I go to the website of J. Bipes, there is a message 
there about software for old macs.

This message says something to the effect that the site is "closed" to 
downloading of software for old macs. Which is exactly what one is led to 
believe that he can do, based upon the list of software which is SUPPOSED 
to be available for downloading.


Now once again, tell me exactly WHICH pieces of software you downloaded 
from the list presented, in the face of the "site closed" message!
 An apology to
>Cathy is definitely in order. She unfailingly gives, and has given over
>a very long time, excellent advice on a variety of subjects. My guess is
>you tried once to access it and failed. How you extrapolated from that
>that it had been down for a long time is what anyone else might "have
>difficulty trying to understand" (to use your words!)
>
>Denis
>
>: Dr Denis Wright    Classics & History   Uni of New England : 
>: Armidale NSW Australia 2351 Ph 0267 732479 Fax 0267 733520 :
>:...... http://www1.tpgi.com.au/users/janette7/bodhi ....... :

Albert Silverman <slvrmn@netcom.com> wrote:

> This message says something to the effect that the site is "closed" to
> downloading of software for old macs. Which is exactly what one is led to
> believe that he can do, based upon the list of software which is SUPPOSED
> to be available for downloading.

Perhaps if you had explained the basis of your claim when you made your
snide comments about Cathy Stevenson, it would have saved a lot of
trouble. People cannot be expected to test every site that shows up on
the net - they are entitled to report their presence as was done in this
case. She did not *recommend* the site as you claimed - her words were
"You might want to check out several web sites related to older Macs".
That's hardly a recommendation - it's simply a reference point.

All you had to do was to note your observations about the site in a
follow-up and in a civil manner, without the uncalled-for imputations
about someone who is simply trying to be helpful.


Denis Wright
-- 
| Dr D A Wright History Dept Uni of New England Armidale |
| NSW AUSTRALIA 2351  Ph +61 67 732479 Fax +61 67 733520 |
|____ http://www.une.edu.au/~arts/History/dwright.htm ___|

Hi All;

I have just spent the last few days, tring to install 7.5.5 onto a
SE30 8/80, it refused to recognise it. Then I tried system 7.5.3,
again no go. So I installed system z-7.1 from an Apple Update CD-ROM,
after copying via appletalk from my PB1400.

It (system 7.1, Claris OfficeWorks v4) run well. I tried installing
Claris Emailer lite 1.0v3, config PPP, Interent config, MacTcp,
Netscape v2.

This is where the problems happen, I run Claris emailer, connect and
it produces an error report, I try to open it and the computer
frezzes...

Can any one help, or do I need to obtain more RAM? 

Any help will be most gratefull, thanks!
Regards from :           David. E. Goble
                         goble@kin.on.net
                 http://www.eastend.com.au/~goble
          American Beach Kangaroo Island South Australia

goble@kigateway.eastend.com.au (David. E. Goble) wrote:
>
>Hi All;
>I have just spent the last few days, tring to install 7.5.5 onto a
>SE30 8/80, it refused to recognise it. Then I tried system 7.5.3,
>again no go. So I installed system z-7.1 from an Apple Update CD-ROM,
>after copying via appletalk from my PB1400.
>
>It (system 7.1, Claris OfficeWorks v4) run well. I tried installing
>Claris Emailer lite 1.0v3, config PPP, Interent config, MacTcp,
>Netscape v2.

>This is where the problems happen, I run Claris emailer, connect and
>it produces an error report, I try to open it and the computer
>frezzes...
>
Hi Guys;

I found the problem, the claris folder was causing it, I removed it to
the desktop rebooted then moved the files inside into the new claris
folder. 

Every thing works (sort of) in claris emailer, the menu font changes,
I assume this is due to only having 8 MB RAM?


Regards from :           David. E. Goble
                         goble@kin.on.net
                 http://www.eastend.com.au/~goble
          American Beach Kangaroo Island South Australia