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kevin <kevin@Invalid.Address.Com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> Rather odd problem with a Win98SE install on a Compaq Prosignia 340.

>> IE, OE, VET and firefox all crash very quickly after starting them.

>> Everything else works fine.

>> Those that do crash are all attempting to use the net.
>> Firefox was installed after first seeing the problem and
>> is the evidence that there is some fundamental problem
>> with net access somewhere.

>> The system file checker did replace a couple of files, made no difference.

>> It was running IE and OE 6, repairing IE 6 made no
>> difference, uninstalling that back to 5 made no difference.

>> Same result with the internal modem and an external router.

>> Clean install of 98SE fixes the problem completely so its
>> clearly SE thats got screwed up somehow. Reasonably
>> clean install of SE, tho its been installed quite a while now.

>> Main problem is that I cant get the Compaq QuickRestore
>> to even start, it just whines 'restoration cannot continue',

>>     This is caused by one of the following conditions :
>>     The QuickRestore disk is not in the drive

>> cant be that, the CD is in the drive and the floppy makes no difference

> Check if Drive Letter assigned to CD has changed!

Not relevant because thats an attempt to boot the
CD and there is no drive letter for it at that level.

And I get exactly the same result when I return
it to the original hardware config anyway.

> However it looks like your trying to run a Win98 CD on Win98se!

Nope, I get the same result even when the hard drive has been wiped.

And it isnt a Win98 CD anyway, its the Compaq Recovery CDs.

> You don't use the Win98 CD after you upgrade to Win98se unless it asks for it.

> And then I'd get a REAL Win98 CD and not a Compaq Restore CD!

I want the Compaq Recovery CD because a standard
Win98SE CD doesnt  have the drivers I need, they arent
on the compaq site for that Prosignia 340 either, and the
current install doesnt require any CD to be inserted when
say adding a NIC, it has the cabs for that stuff on the HD.

>>     This QuickRestore disk is not designed for this computer
>>
>> thats a real possibility, as far as I know its never been used
>>
>>     The system board has been replace
>>
>> not as far as I am aware
>>
>>     The Flash BIOS is corrupt or has been rewritten
>>
>> no evidence of either
>>
>>     A hardware error has occurred
>>
>> no evidence of any hardware problem.
>>
>> It comes with a diskette too which appears to write the serial
>> number to the hard drive and diskette. That runs fine with no
>> complaints and it makes no difference if thats in the drive when
>> the QuickRestore CD is booted.
>>
>>
>> So I'd like some way of actually fixing the problem in the current
>> SE install thats causing the crashes in IE, OE, VET and firefox.
>> Presumably it must be a problem with one of the dlls or something,
>> but the system file checker doesnt see any problem with any of them.
>>
>> Or some way of getting the QuickRestore to work.
>>
>> I can obviously do a clean install of SE from a normal OEM CD
>> and the product key on the SE manual works fine. But thats quite
>> a bit different in detail to the original SE install, no drivers etc
>> and it looks like there is a problem with the drivers from
>> http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/DesktopProsignia/us/family/134.html?lang=en&cc=us&prodSeriesId=96448
>> no obviously suitable video driver for starters, this one has an
>> intel chipset video. The original SE install has got the
>> supplementary drivers on the hard drive too, so you dont have to fart around
>> with a CD when say adding a NIC etc either.

> First check that it is pointing to the proper drive for the CD.

I did that by returning to the original hardware config.

> It may have changed the drive letter to your CD when you reinstalled.

The drive letter is irrelevant when booting the recovery CD.

> Check Device Mang. to see if that Drive Letter it was assigned has changed.

Not relevant when booting a recovery CD and I get the same
result when its returned to the original hardware config anyway.

> Second your trying to run a Restore Disk that is Windows 98 after you've 
> updated to win98se!

No I'm not. No evidence that it ever had 98 installed.

The manual is a compaq oem 98SE manual.

> Whenever I try that it tells be the Win98 CD is the wrong version and to put 
> the win98se CD in.

Its not a Win98* CD, its a compaq OS Recovery CD.

I get the same result when I try to boot the Driver Recovery CD too.

> I suggest you get a normal copy of win98 if you have a Win98se upgrade CD or 
> win98se (full version if they made one) somewhere.

That's what I used to prove that the problem was a stuffed SE
install. That works fine, the only problem is with the drivers.

> You might try Ebay for one.

> I ripped out the Compaq crap here and got rid of the D:\ partition that slows 
> your computer.

It only has one partition.

> You don't need it when you uninstal the Compaq Windows and install Win98 and 
> then upgrade to Win98se.

> I'm surprised you got SFC to run on a Restore CD

I didnt, I used the full Win98SE OEM CD
for the two files it decided might be dubious.

> unless it was after you upgraded to Win98se and used that CD to update files.

There never was any upgrade.

> I had to get the files out of the CABs by hand until I dumped that Restore CD.
> Talk about taking something simple and complicating it!

> Partition your Drive as one Partition and install Win98 then upgrade to 
> Win98se unless you have a Win98se Full Version (don't know if they made one 
> but possible).

Yes, I have one, an OEM.

That certainly works but there's then a problme with the drivers.

> Or going to Win2000 or XP would be another option if you want to go that route

Not that practical, its only a 64M machine and the user is rather
too naive for 2K and likely the camera software wont run on 2K.

> but read up on them to be sure you can close all the Doors left open and 
> change default passwords etc...

I dont need to read up on that stuff.