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Article #12Re: Running laptop on AC power with battery removed
From: Buffalo
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:34
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:34
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Meat Plow wrote: > On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:22:15 -0700 (PDT), starved@rock.comwrote: > >> Brand new Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop purchased last week. At this time >> the system will be used as a desktop, running on AC power >> continously. >> >> According to http://www.batteryuniversity.com and other sources, >> leaving the battery in - while always running on AC power and never >> on battery power - will shorten the life of the battery. >> >> So the battery's been removed, and with a 40% charge on it, it's in a >> ziplock bag and stored in the refrigerator. >> >> The plan is to remove it from storage after some time, put it back in >> the laptop, recharge it back up to 40%, and then store it in the >> refrigerator again. This cycle will be repeated indefinitely. >> >> My questions are: >> >> 1. How long can the battery remain stored in the refrigerator before >> it has to be recharged? One month? Two months? >> >> 2. Should I be concerned about corrosion of the contacts or dust >> buildup in an empty battery compartment? >> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! >> >> - Dave > > Lithium Ion batteries have a finite number of charges. Has nothing to > do with leaving it in the laptop while on AC provided the power > functions of the laptop work as designed. From the link the OP supplied: "Storage in a cool place slows the aging process of lithium-ion (and other chemistries). Manufacturers recommend storage temperatures of 15�C (59�F). In addition, the battery should be partially charged during storage. The manufacturer recommends a 40% charge." "Lithium-ion offers good charging performance at cold and hot temperatures. The acceptable charge range is 0� to 45�C (32�F to 113�F). It is recommended, however, to reduce the charge rate to less than 1C at temperatures of 5�C to 0�C (41�F to 32�F). It is important to know that consumer grade lithium-ion batteries cannot be charged below 0�C (32�F). Although the packs appear to be charging normally at freezing temperatures, the cell impedance goes up and the acceptance of the ions on the anode is drastically reduced." " Quality chargers reduce the charge current at cold temperatures and avert a charge altogether below 0�C (32�F). When charging a cold battery, allow the pack to warm up before putting it into the charger. Discharging a lithium-ion battery at cold temperature does not cause any harm. The lower performance will only be noticeable while the pack is dwelling in the cold state." " The recommended storage temperature for most batteries is 15�C (59�F). While lead-acid batteries must always be kept at full charge, nickel and lithium-based chemistries should be stored at 40% state-of-charge (SoC)." "Lithium-ion powers most of today's laptop computers. The battery compartment on many laptops rises to about 45�C (113�F) during operation. The combination of high charge level and elevated ambient temperature presents an unfavorable condition for the battery. This explains the short lifespan of many laptop batteries." Buffalo
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